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Posted by: Benjamin on 03-09-10 about Rollinghead Ahh Dead River Drag...I wore that CD d own to dust..."Distance" used to rattle my windows... In response to: Bill Millmine on 09-29-09 for Rollinghead I use to work with Dave Grant at the KIA and watch Rollinghead/Deadriverdrag play at Club-Soda all the time. Rollinghead is one of my most listend to cd's still today. I wish I could have been there to see them again. I played Bass for the Bremmens and have a lot of fond memories of the music scene back in the day. We would be kickin in walls at Lovell street house to Thought Industry, then be trippin at the God Bullies place and end up toaking our way back Oak street to jam with Maureen and Adam and the Bremmens clan all night long. I'm going to have to get back to Kazoo sometime. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: ian on 03-02-10 about all Jared is my uncle, this is great music, Table is pretty awesome too. Reply to this message

Posted by: d garnett on 03-02-10 about John Henry john, i've woken up with years gone and no memories of what transpired. if you remember the 90's you weren't there i suppose. and especially the late great 80's. anyway, no harm done. i just cringe when i see my name mentioned in anything really. as if i didn't already have an entire lifetime of embarrassing moments to live down. didn't realize you were a band manager tho. interesting. Reply to this message

Posted by: on 02-28-10 about John Henry s/revisionist history/lost brain cells and a penchant for over-writing - "revisionist history" implies will and purpose. Sometimes the details of my memories are off. Sometimes I was given bad information back then. Sometimes I pick a word that has implications I hadn't considered profound (like "betrothed" instead of "girlfriend"). Sometimes I wonder if I was there at all, or if it's all some head-trauma induced hallucination fueled by long-forgotten dreams of changing the world and too much LSD during the first Bush administration. There are days when I favor the latter theory... In response to: D Garnett on 02-26-10 for John Henry John, seems to be alot of revisionist history happening here. We were all in a small town where everyone pretty much knew everyone else during different stages of life. but for the record i was never ever 'betrothed' to anyone. i just did what every other horny 19 year old did at the time, which is to see as many people as possible and try to get away with it. lol --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Tommy on 02-27-10 about Thought Industry We have a Facebook group on the go, if anybody would like to contribute, I can make you an Officer and eventually an Administrator. :) I know, I know, its a lot to compute, but do it to honor the band! thOught industry....for eva! Reply to this message

Posted by: D Garnett on 02-26-10 about John Henry John, seems to be alot of revisionist history happening here. We were all in a small town where everyone pretty much knew everyone else during different stages of life. but for the record i was never ever 'betrothed' to anyone. i just did what every other horny 19 year old did at the time, which is to see as many people as possible and try to get away with it. lol Reply to this message

Posted by: JM on 02-25-10 about all If you need them, I downloaded the Beaten Senseless tracks a year or so ago and can re-up them somewhere. Feel free to drop me a line at rallicknom AT gmail DOT com. In response to: Master on 02-22-10 for all Drat, I'll try to fix the links. I don't think I have the files anymore --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 02-22-10 about all Drat, I'll try to fix the links. I don't think I have the files anymore Reply to this message

Posted by: jiesen on 02-21-10 about Selling Heaven im gettin file not found messages when i click on the individual track links. :( Reply to this message

Posted by: on 02-15-10 about all In response to: Eric Blade on 02-15-10 for all holy crap, that's awesome. I don't think it's the same one I had , though.. i seem to recall there having been a song called "Death Dreamer" .. but maybe that was the lyrics.. checking it out right now. It's not the exact same as the tape I had.. definitely sounds different .. but it's not too far. :D Reply to this message

Posted by: Eric Blade on 02-15-10 about all holy crap, that's awesome. I don't think it's the same one I had , though.. i seem to recall there having been a song called "Death Dreamer" .. but maybe that was the lyrics.. checking it out right now. In response to: MM on 12-05-09 for all You can listen to the Cryonax songs here: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=771561 In response to: Eric Blade on 12-01-09 for all hey guys. I have lost a tape that I had by a band that I think pre-dated most of the stuff on here.. anyone remember a band called CRYONAX? The cassette was given to me by a very good friend of mine, that I recently discovered is no longer with us, and I'd love to be able to give it a listen.. if anyone can track that down, it'd be awesome.. get with me at blade.eric@gmail.com, pls? --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 02-14-10 about all Test Reply to this message

Posted by: BlackRabbit on 02-12-10 about all Hi. The trouble with being a stupid spammer is that poop vomits out of my brain at inopportune moments. Like that time I was at the DMV and I asked the 45 year old woman if she wanted to have a larger P3N15 for free just by visiting my website: gwww.giantdonkers4free.com. Gosh, I wish I had a robot brain. BlackRabbit from Sin City Reply to this message

Posted by: Bob on 02-06-10 about Rollinghead Those Couch House shows rocked. Reply to this message

Posted by: jared on 02-04-10 about Clockmaker great musicians...to date the most fun I ever had playing music...I loved playing in every instance, but playing with these guys was a blank canvas, and they humored my input enough toi make me feel like I had a purpose in contributing. I loved the guns, and the fact I could play the music face down drunk most of the time...I loved Table because I played with my closest pals...and TI was always fun to tour...wish I would have taken that more seriously...oh well...hind sight and all;) funny to hear these songs again. I left the band just as we were starting to gel. I think if I would have continued with Gary and Steve and Kevin, I would have produced some of the best drumming...they really brought it out in me. Reply to this message

Posted by: j@$09 t Carter on 02-04-10 about all I belonged to a leseer knon band named Uncarved Block we were sort of Taoist but know I regret using the analogy for Pu for a Trojan band that conqured the people of the Kalamazutra river, orwhateva. anywaiegh all hail the jewel in the heart of the lotus flower, power to the speaker. Any photos of us you may share are copywrite free and fell free to use them or boots to commerate our history for cyber-drunks and zippies. I'll send in some fleyers, we played with Konichi-wa, and also opened for thought industry and our last show was with the Godbullies. To bad our town turned so culture free; I liked the community filled with culture for regular and other soda people who found light in other people's hearts. If anyone wants to cause a scene, I'm still a singer and an industial programmer, we could get together and breathe love into the trees of Kalamaghana with some musicand gathering, I love your site, I had the same idea, preserving the People's history of the river and preseving recordings for as long as there are servers and IBM's. I can also help open a club providied we have a festival to raise money for molk and honey and o mani. Also considering Gibson guitar has a plant here shouldn't we have a Hard Rock Cafe? Happiness from plainwell - I'm seious about a club, it could be a great gift/// Reply to this message

Posted by: Wendy on 02-03-10 about Fletcher Hi, guys! I must say that I downloaded your songs on torrent search engine http://www.picktorrent.com and never regretted it. You are telling your story with such warmth and nostalgia that I could understand you miss those times. I wish you good luck and inspiration to create new masterpieces:) Reply to this message

Posted by: fdff on 02-03-10 about all http://www.google.com [url=http://www.poogle.com] http://www.google.com [/url] Reply to this message

Posted by: Kelly A on 02-01-10 about The Sleestacks Man, am I happy to find a copy of A Pirate's Life. I gave my cassette away to the bass player for some touring band (Fluid, I think). Now I can play Captain's Boy for my children! Thank you Leon's Temple! Reply to this message

Posted by: JG on 01-29-10 about Clockmaker Yes, Gary Green was the other guitarist and Jeff Hutchinson was the drummer after Jared left & joined Genius Hired Guns. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 01-29-10 about King Tammy They had a 'greasiest hair' competition In response to: Culture Of None on 01-28-10 for King Tammy someone should coax a reminiscence out of Brent Oberlin for this discussion...some insight into what it was like being behind the boards for King Tammy's debut --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Culture Of None on 01-28-10 about King Tammy someone should coax a reminiscence out of Brent Oberlin for this discussion...some insight into what it was like being behind the boards for King Tammy's debut Reply to this message

Posted by: Lori on 01-27-10 about Rollinghead I am just sick knowing I missed the reunion show!!! I never missed a show until now. Still listen to my autograped cd's all the time. All the guys knew me as their biggest fan. Thanks for all the memories!!!!!!!!!! Reply to this message

Posted by: For the catfish on 01-27-10 about Top 10 Were you the one with all of the intricate facial hair (like spikey sideburns + a goatee + a van dyke + a mississippi twiste)? And You got laid a lot? Damn! Reply to this message

Posted by: me on 01-24-10 about all Go tell your priest to save his strength for you and me, fucker. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 01-21-10 about all Yea, he sat there flicking his dick with his finger (like one might launch a raisin of the table) saying he couldn't feel anything. If you wanted to see a penis, you just had to look stage right at Dustin in the 'green room' area. He would oft flash his penis to distract drummers Reply to this message

Posted by: Oz on 01-21-10 about all Man, I dig seeing old band flyers. Nothing like hand made promotional material. Where would we be without Kinkos? I forgot all about that Overman/King Tammy/Kidd Death Show. One of the few times I ever saw a penis on the Club Soda stage. Sweet. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 01-20-10 about everything Well, it's pretty good, you know, if you like it. In response to: anthony g on 01-20-10 for everything sometimes i miss kalamazoo a little. i guess it was okay. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: anthony g on 01-20-10 about everything sometimes i miss kalamazoo a little. i guess it was okay. Reply to this message

Posted by: wmupaprmkr on 01-14-10 about Rollinghead first time I saw Rollinghead was at a Battle of the Bands in Portage at the bomb shelter right off of Westnedge by the fire station. I lost count how many times during my time at WMU that I saw them, Never a bad show! Reply to this message

Posted by: doug g on 01-14-10 about Clockmaker Gary Green was the main songwriter/guitarist and Kevin Hannah was their bassist. i used to give Gary guitar lessons when we were kids. funny. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 01-13-10 about all Well, he does claim to 'flee for good'. I guess this is a good a place to haunt as any, although it might take more to rally me from the void. In response to: Chonk on 01-10-10 for all I'm not sure if this is really Tom Hubert or not. The Tom Hubert from Kalamazoo that I knew passed away several years ago. Is this some sick joke? Man, talk about modicum of class. In response to: Tom Hubert on 11-23-09 for all having grown up in kazoo, finally lucky enough to flee for good a few years back, this site struck me as odd: ... Reply to this message

Posted by: on 01-12-10 about all I remember them, seems like they were around earlier on, more during the Worhead-era scene when a lot of the local bands were still very heavy on metal covers and not doing a huge amount of original music yet. Seems like someone I was fairly tight with later played with them but I can't remember who? Or maybe not *shrug* In response to: Eric Blade on 12-01-09 for all hey guys. I have lost a tape that I had by a band that I think pre-dated most of the stuff on here.. anyone remember a band called CRYONAX? The cassette was given to me by a very good friend of mine, that I recently discovered is no longer with us, and I'd love to be able to give it a listen.. if anyone can track that down, it'd be awesome.. get with me at blade.eric@gmail.com, pls? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: wmupaprmkr on 01-10-10 about Dead River Drag last show was at Harveys on St. Patricks Day. DRD and Cabrini Green too I think. Great band, great show! Reply to this message

Posted by: wmupaprmkr on 01-10-10 about Feedbag Wow, what a great site! Evan and I used study chemistry at WMU back in 1989-1990-ish. I was at the house on Minor St when the Berlin wall came down. 510 Minor street if my foggy memory serves me correctly. Stairway to Hot-n-Now at the Soda...I may have been there for that one. Rock On! Reply to this message

Posted by: BigBox on 01-10-10 about Halsey This and more many other music can be found on a site http://usemeplz.com. I usually for search of films, music use this service. Reply to this message

Posted by: wmupaprmkr on 01-10-10 about Grant and Roche I grew up in the zoo area listening to the great bands like Rollinghead, DRD, FAQ, feedbag, and the like. Dave Grant is the man. I cannot believe I missed the Bells show last summer. Hopefully there will be some more shows in 2010. Reply to this message

Posted by: Chonk on 01-10-10 about all I'm not sure if this is really Tom Hubert or not. The Tom Hubert from Kalamazoo that I knew passed away several years ago. Is this some sick joke? Man, talk about modicum of class. In response to: Tom Hubert on 11-23-09 for all having grown up in kazoo, finally lucky enough to flee for good a few years back, this site struck me as odd: On one hand, it's a nice collection of stuff. On the other it's a really bizarre, self-congratulatory website with nothing but nostalgic back-patting and/or ass-kissing. Is this intentionally written as a gossip column, or are you being, sigh, "ironic"? why would I care about an old photo of Erin Dwight? she was the nastiest ho in town. she's even worse now! wtf? please, stop the gossip schtick and focus on archiving old tapes or whatnot. really, have a modicum of class. please, I beg you. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: JH on 01-06-10 about all Ah. That makes me feel better. For I minute I thought maybe she found out it was me who NO CARRIER In response to: Jeff Till on 01-06-10 for all John, I'm the one who fabricated an insult to Karla, who knows I'm a goose and an affectionate jab. No apologies from you are needed, I'm just having fun at your expense. Sweetly, Jeff --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff Till on 01-06-10 about all John, I'm the one who fabricated an insult to Karla, who knows I'm a goose and an affectionate jab. No apologies from you are needed, I'm just having fun at your expense. Sweetly, Jeff Reply to this message

Posted by: jh on 01-06-10 about all Just checking in...things are slowly going on, and as a few folks already knew I'm back in the 'zoo since July and am...well, heartbroken wouldn't be too strong a word to describe it. Everything's GONE. Time to get to work. I was just catching up on my reading and wasn't going to bother posting but saw Karla's remarks...accuracy I'll take a hit on all day, lord knows I've lost some brain cells over the years. Hell, let's not mince words: I should be dead by all rights and it's a miracle that I can remember my own name sometimes. If I've misremembered or mis-sequenced something important, everyone please feel free to set the record straight. Not sure what I might have said to make Karla think she looked bad, but whatever it was it was purely unintentional and I apologize profusely. Historical errors I can live with, but unintentionally insulting someone or hurting their feelings is something else entirely. As the insult was apparently public, so should be the apology, and I hope that fixes whatever I broke. Reply to this message

Posted by: Ryan on 01-05-10 about Big Sam Jamie and Oz were in Peak prior to Big Sam. Along with Matt Bergmoser, Matt Colles, and Steven Pritchard. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 01-04-10 about Thought Industry ah, but what came first? The dude is totally into vanity plates. In fact, his current license plate says #1soxfan (ever since his move to Boston). And he loves getting his own custom printed photo t-shirts of him giving the double-cobain to the camera. He obviously had an 111MZD plate made after learning/devising/encrypting its true meaning. Mystery rebunked! Reply to this message

Posted by: Ryan on 01-04-10 about Thought Industry Brent's license plate. In response to: John Henry on 05-04-08 for Thought Industry One Hundred Eleven Million Zebras Dead. It's how Dustin's old Desecrator drumset was made, straight from the horse's mouth about 20 million years ago... -jh In response to: what? on 10-28-07 for Thought Industry after 15 years of not knowing, what does 111mzd mean? --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: ben on 01-03-10 about Clockmaker i think jeff hutchinson played drums for the for a while as well, but thats all i remember Reply to this message

Posted by: ben on 01-03-10 about Clockmaker i believe the 2nd guitar player you're looking for was gary greene(not sure if last name spelling is correct) Reply to this message

Posted by: BlackRabbit on 01-03-10 about Clockmaker Thanks for posting! I cannot take the credit for it though, Lonnie Butcher is the man with archive of Kzoo goodness. He sent me the MP3s, I was just the delivery boy. Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 01-02-10 about all I think you only need to click on the links and Dutch Mafia will be yours free of charge (but loaded with the hidden costs of non-stop lower-lip-biting) Reply to this message

Posted by: ! on 01-02-10 about GHG Wow! Saw GHG @ Small Planet E.L. 95'ish? nothin' betta' than a stiff drink. Genious Hired Genious! Staying on task... Someone please help me D-load D. Mafia. Huge fan, please help. meyers5150@gmail.com Dig. Reply to this message

Posted by: Culture Of None on 12-29-09 about all Just started watching the 'Scumrock' movie..Dustin Donaldson's in this thing from what i understand. Reply to this message

Posted by: anthony comport on 12-26-09 about all hey all my old band friends, i dont know if anyone remembers the bands i played in but i drummed in stoneface and cellfish with steve herwarth and chris berkey..... and of course i miss soda every day man. Reply to this message

Posted by: anthony comport on 12-26-09 about Cosmonaut wow i have been friends with and enjoyed evry band brent has been in. and i forgot about this one, i dont know how, because this is very good! Reply to this message

Posted by: Culture Of None on 12-24-09 about all watching some FA-Q vids on youtube posted by chonkster ... happy holidays to all! Reply to this message

Posted by: Ron on 12-23-09 about all Hey look, it's the Leppotone Christmas Album! HERE Merry Christmas from King Tammy, The Sinatras, The Sleestacks and everyone else at Leppotone! Reply to this message

Posted by: d on 12-21-09 about Bryers Toyland is awesome. love the new album totally radical to the max. #1 America Reply to this message

Posted by: m on 12-21-09 about all love this site Reply to this message

Posted by: Joby on 12-17-09 about all Shit man, I'm slackin! Reply to this message

Posted by: Halsey on 12-16-09 about all Well shit damn, if we don't kiss each other's asses, whose gonna do it? It's not like we're rockin' 1000's of d/l's on itunes every month with the 1994 club soda catalog, so why not go directly to the well. Every time I google myself, it leads back to this site, so it can't be all that bad. Fuck, I'm awesome and cool, according to my good friends and acquaintences. I love how Tom refers to Erin's ho-i-ness and goes on to beg for a modicum of class...that's fucking rich. In response to: Tom Hubert on 11-23-09 for all having grown up in kazoo, finally lucky enough to flee for good a few years back, this site struck me as odd: On one hand, it's a nice collection of stuff. On the other it's a really bizarre, self-congratulatory website with nothing but nostalgic back-patting and/or ass-kissing. Is this intentionally written as a gossip column, or are you being, sigh, "ironic"? why would I care about an old photo of Erin Dwight? she was the nastiest ho in town. she's even worse now! wtf? please, stop the gossip schtick and focus on archiving old tapes or whatnot. really, have a modicum of class. please, I beg you. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Thor on 12-13-09 about Fletcher Dan S. was a great drummer as well, and was the backbone behind the band for the formative years. Simple and to the point, ala Chris Mars. Listen to the songs posted and you'll see what I mean. color="silver">In response to: jim cherry on 08-30-09 for Fletcher I thought this band was one of the best bands I'd ever seen when Paul Wartella was in it- Paul W was a close friend of mine and of all the bands he played in he told me this was his favorite band to play with- He had mad respect for Bryan Charles- I always thought Skip and Bryers should have started a band together- They would have been the Lennon/MacCartney of Kalamazoo- I only saw this band 3 times but they were definately one of my favorite bands I'd ever seen --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: twan on 12-13-09 about twitch the best times of my life Reply to this message

Posted by: BlackRabbit on 12-11-09 about all The robot hordes have started the invasion. Is there no hope? Who will save us? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jason on 12-11-09 about Selling Heaven thanks so much for sharing! I really enjoyed it. so much that I'll certainly try to download more of this music by http://www.picktorrent.com torrent search engine if I find it:) smth prompts me that I will, cause this resource is the best. Reply to this message

Posted by: twan on 12-10-09 about Thought Industry thought industry will always rule. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 12-10-09 about all It's December 10th. (holy fuck, I can't believe Joby references web4insects site and doesn't write that) Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 12-10-09 about all web4insects board - I wonder if Alexa still remembers. Maybe if DEWEY GUIDA ever chimes in we can get those old posts back ;-) Reply to this message

Posted by: Occasional Master Now in AZ on 12-10-09 about all I always thought this site was just an excuse to get everyone from the web4insects board back together and commence with cock-suckery "Niche" is the operative term this is not the "Every fucking band to ever come from Kalamazoo site" it's a bunch of jackasses whom all know eachother. Odd that some people still don't "get it" Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 12-09-09 about all Cryonax isn't bad t'all. It does remind me though that TI, even/especially Songs for Insects, was unusual and strange music. Reply to this message

Posted by: MM on 12-05-09 about all You can listen to the Cryonax songs here: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=771561 In response to: Eric Blade on 12-01-09 for all hey guys. I have lost a tape that I had by a band that I think pre-dated most of the stuff on here.. anyone remember a band called CRYONAX? The cassette was given to me by a very good friend of mine, that I recently discovered is no longer with us, and I'd love to be able to give it a listen.. if anyone can track that down, it'd be awesome.. get with me at blade.eric@gmail.com, pls? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Eric Blade on 12-01-09 about all In response to: allyson on 11-28-09 for all The selling of a twitch album in France is what allows the country to have free health care. http://www.musicstack.com/item.cgi?item=12731749 --- end of previous message --- wow, and I got mine for only like $9 used at a used music shop in Plymouth... Reply to this message

Posted by: Eric Blade on 12-01-09 about all hey guys. I have lost a tape that I had by a band that I think pre-dated most of the stuff on here.. anyone remember a band called CRYONAX? The cassette was given to me by a very good friend of mine, that I recently discovered is no longer with us, and I'd love to be able to give it a listen.. if anyone can track that down, it'd be awesome.. get with me at blade.eric@gmail.com, pls? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 11-29-09 about all I'll sell my copy for a whole $10k less if any one's interested. $69,000 and I'll send it overnight. In response to: allyson on 11-28-09 for all The selling of a twitch album in France is what allows the country to have free health care. http://www.musicstack.com/item.cgi?item=12731749 --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: allyson on 11-28-09 about all The selling of a twitch album in France is what allows the country to have free health care. http://www.musicstack.com/item.cgi?item=12731749 Reply to this message

Posted by: Paul Kiry on 11-25-09 about all Tom Hubert is a little bitch!!! Reply to this message

Posted by: on 11-25-09 about all >are you being, sigh, "ironic"? please, stop the gossip schtick and focus on archiving old tapes or whatnot. really, have a modicum of class. please, I beg you." + 1 !! Reply to this message

Posted by: everett on 11-24-09 about all why isn't schneider on here? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 11-24-09 about all Somebody got his heart broke? Sounds like some JUICY GOSSIP. Yes there really is an unreleased TWITCH release. Fans/appreciators should desire it greatly. It's release (whether freely distributed or for $$) is awaiting executive order from Kevin Oberlin. Reply to this message

Posted by: Culture Of None on 11-23-09 about all i honestly could not ask for a better embodiment of '90s Western Michigan music than leonstemple. (Is there really a twitch *full-length* that was recorded for RCA after the Medicine Ball ep?!? or did i mis-read..) Reply to this message

Posted by: Spooky Tooth on 11-23-09 about all wow... sounds like somebody got his heart broke 20 years ago and he still can't get over it. Reply to this message

Posted by: Tom Hubert on 11-23-09 about all having grown up in kazoo, finally lucky enough to flee for good a few years back, this site struck me as odd: On one hand, it's a nice collection of stuff. On the other it's a really bizarre, self-congratulatory website with nothing but nostalgic back-patting and/or ass-kissing. Is this intentionally written as a gossip column, or are you being, sigh, "ironic"? why would I care about an old photo of Erin Dwight? she was the nastiest ho in town. she's even worse now! wtf? please, stop the gossip schtick and focus on archiving old tapes or whatnot. really, have a modicum of class. please, I beg you. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jim Cherry on 11-21-09 about all I finally sat down and listened to the latest TASM LAB cd and dug it very much- i was actually impressed with the production & sound quality of the cd. I also thought the songs were better than the 1st cd- thumb up!! Reply to this message

Posted by: on 11-19-09 about Bryers Ghost Stories is now on iTunes Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 11-19-09 about all The previous spammer had me fooled. Reply to this message

Posted by: dann on 11-17-09 about Halsey I haven't been to your site for quite a long period of time and at last visited it! Needless to say, you are good at what you do, I always read all your articles with pleasure. With the numerous blogs, forums and social sites I usually find by means of http://rapid4me.com SE, it is not always easy to find really worthy info! Thanks! http://rapid4me.com [url=http://rapid4me.com] http://rapid4me.com [/url] Reply to this message

Posted by: dann on 11-17-09 about Halsey I haven't been to your site for quite a long period of time and at last visited it! Needless to say, you are good at what you do, I always read all your articles with pleasure. With the numerous blogs, forums and social sites I usually find by means of http://rapid4me.com SE, it is not always easy to find really worthy info! Thanks! Reply to this message

Posted by: Craniac on 11-15-09 about Dead River Drag Did anyone ever? In response to: Craig Daitch on 01-04-09 for Dead River Drag Could someone please email me the lyrics to Parasites please? craig.daitch@gmail.com Gracias, Craig --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Craniac on 11-15-09 about Dead River Drag Did anyone ever? In response to: Craig Daitch on 01-04-09 for Dead River Drag Could someone please email me the lyrics to Parasites please? craig.daitch@gmail.com Gracias, Craig --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Mark Chapman on 11-13-09 about all A few comments about Chris Bryers Ghost Stories- Hauntingly Familiar - Pat Traverse Rolling Stone 5 out of 5 Stars - John Phelps Spin Magazine Another amazing Album - Adam Bolt Filter Magazine A must have for everyone - Alan Jones Cream Magazine Reply to this message

Posted by: Bryers on 11-11-09 about all Ghost Stories is up for sale at cdbaby http://cdbaby.com/cd/bryersmusic Reply to this message

Posted by: Justin F on 11-05-09 about all Some more Sinatras hype on the Rhapsody Blog. Check it out: Rhapsody Reply to this message

Posted by: Lord of the Temple on 11-03-09 about King Tammy What is "live at Harveys" and should the public have it? Let me know if you can digitize and send in. In response to: kiMi on 11-01-09 for King Tammy hey, i'm listening to "live at harvey's" and i was wondering if anyone has or knows the lyrics to "space fantasy: a journey beneath orion's belt"? any help would be much appreciated! thanks... --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: kiMi on 11-01-09 about King Tammy hey, i'm listening to "live at harvey's" and i was wondering if anyone has or knows the lyrics to "space fantasy: a journey beneath orion's belt"? any help would be much appreciated! thanks... Reply to this message

Posted by: Ron C on 10-29-09 about all Sinatras Track Listing: When I Was King The Length Hope Cande’s Sweetness Sheila’s Glowing Sweetest Kiss Kind Of Like Love Lousy Neighbor Easy Bein’ Harvesting When It’s Over You Remind Me Of Yellow Gonna Getcha Back Buy You Clothes Heartstopper Man From Malta Superfuel Shuteye Action Party Death Valley Days I Don’t Want To Follow Reply to this message

Posted by: Tony Party on 10-29-09 about all Any you all got a track listing for the Sinatras record? Reply to this message

Posted by: www.cultureofnone.com on 10-24-09 about all looks like 'Ghost Stories' is about to pop. Reply to this message

Posted by: Tony Party on 10-24-09 about all I have about 75 Uno Comps. If any you all want one lemme know. tony _ party AT yahoo DOT com Reply to this message

Posted by: johnny on 10-22-09 about Fletcher id actually love to hear that uno comp/deconstruction lp....been looking for that comp for years and no dice... In response to: on 09-02-08 for Fletcher thanks Rich. Maybe i'll get around to putting together Checker Records info for here and i'll send in the uno comp, inourselves/jihad and the never released Deconstruction LP. In response to: rich on 08-27-08 for Fletcher That's the song I speak of, Paul... The one from the UNO comp.. I somehow recall it being about specific people but... Yeah. Good song. In response to: tony party on 08-27-08 for Fletcher i don't remember anything hitting bill. in fact bill was our very first drummer for a couple hours or so but O A was demanding too much time from him . there is a song on the UNO comp that hits back at some of the rhetoric that was plopping about in those days. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Scott on 10-20-09 about all I, for one, would really like to hear this. Reply to this message

Posted by: Allyson M. on 10-20-09 about all This may rival the radio spot for twitch at the State Theatre that sounded like an advertisement for a monster truck show. In response to: Jeff Till on 10-19-09 for all So Craig Verity sent me a tape he had of a WIDR show featuring pre-1993-Kalapalooza interviews with a group consisting of myself, Brent O, Chris Bryers, Charles Bradford, Willie Axe, and Dean Van Dyke. I had to turn it off three times because I felt so stupid. This crowd would make for a good bachelor party, but made a pretty boring and innane radio segment. I was a total waste, and I can even be smart and funny given the chance. Bryers did most of the talking and was the meanest of the bunch. A big theme was "who got picked to play and who didn't" as it was asked of both the interviewer and a caller, to which Brent and others explained in great detail about ticket revenues and objectivity and blah blah. Let me clear it up: we were all friends; we lived in the same house for chrissakes. Anyways, I'm not sure I'm going to post it. Maybe radio is temporary for a reason. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff Till on 10-19-09 about all So Craig Verity sent me a tape he had of a WIDR show featuring pre-1993-Kalapalooza interviews with a group consisting of myself, Brent O, Chris Bryers, Charles Bradford, Willie Axe, and Dean Van Dyke. I had to turn it off three times because I felt so stupid. This crowd would make for a good bachelor party, but made a pretty boring and innane radio segment. I was a total waste, and I can even be smart and funny given the chance. Bryers did most of the talking and was the meanest of the bunch. A big theme was "who got picked to play and who didn't" as it was asked of both the interviewer and a caller, to which Brent and others explained in great detail about ticket revenues and objectivity and blah blah. Let me clear it up: we were all friends; we lived in the same house for chrissakes. Anyways, I'm not sure I'm going to post it. Maybe radio is temporary for a reason. Reply to this message

Posted by: Mark Chapman on 10-17-09 about All word!! what this guy said is SOOOO true- there was a very cool and diverse music scene in K-zoo during the early 90's- From Resin Mattress to the Jah Kings K-zoo had it all. Though... I heard that some of the people in certain bands ended up in a Mental Institution.. I'm not gonna name names cuz that's not cool- but suffice it to say they were in Grunge bands. Reply to this message

Posted by: Cris on 10-15-09 about All I was the drummer in Vegetable Soul all those years ago. Such good times, such a fertile music scene. Only in Kalamazoo could a band like us open for a band like Knee Deep Shag and have it work. Reply to this message

Posted by: Ron C on 10-15-09 about everything The Sinatras "Life In Flames" is now available on ITunes and Emusic. 21 tracks, including Action Party, Hope, Kind Of Like Love, I Don't Wanna Follow, Harvesting, and much much more! Reply to this message

Posted by: Ron C on 10-08-09 about everything The Sinatras album, Life In Flames, is now available for download from Amazon, Lala, and Raphsody. 21 songs for less that $8.00! You know you want it! (Coming soon to ITunes and EMusic) Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 10-08-09 about Owsla an informed guess is that the new Bryers will be 'buyable' by mid-November on CD and a bit later for itunes Reply to this message

Posted by: Dave Berkawitz on 10-07-09 about Owsla when can I purchase the new "Bryers" cd? is there a release date? Reply to this message

Posted by: just a reminder on 10-05-09 about The Sinatras sinatras. All original members. Bell's. October 10. Liz Barney's Birthday. Menthols opening. CDs available. That is all. Oh, and $3 cover. Reply to this message

Posted by: MISSOURITWIST on 10-05-09 about Thought Industry UPLOADED THIS FOR FUN SOME THOUGHT INDUSTRY FROM 10 BELLS!SONGS CALLED "SEE YOU" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGxzsW9bPWQ In response to: dan on 09-02-09 for Thought Industry ouch. I got to hang out with the later era versions of the band and they were all really cool and hilarious, especially Brent, Jared, Herb, Cam, Jeff, Roche, and Mark. I met Paul a few times and he was really nice too. -just sayin In response to: fjc on 09-02-09 for Thought Industry I went to a lot of thought industry shows back in the day and the vibe I got from the band was that they were megastars and I was lucky to even be allowed to pay the cover and get in. Very late starts to the show didnt help. Brent Oberlin is better suited being an accountant or whatever he got a degree in. They had a great original sound but you have to achieve something before you are a superstar. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: wbigbuzz on 10-02-09 about all what about Tomfoolery? They seemed to have their own thing going on back then. Reply to this message

Posted by: Bill Millmine on 09-29-09 about Rollinghead I use to work with Dave Grant at the KIA and watch Rollinghead/Deadriverdrag play at Club-Soda all the time. Rollinghead is one of my most listend to cd's still today. I wish I could have been there to see them again. I played Bass for the Bremmens and have a lot of fond memories of the music scene back in the day. We would be kickin in walls at Lovell street house to Thought Industry, then be trippin at the God Bullies place and end up toaking our way back Oak street to jam with Maureen and Adam and the Bremmens clan all night long. I'm going to have to get back to Kazoo sometime. Reply to this message

Posted by: amy on 09-28-09 about everything Yep. It's true. Sinatras are playing OCTOBER 10, 2009 at Bell's. It will cost you all of three dollars. It may or may not be the last Sinatras show before Scott and i move away, too. Seriously. So come on out. There will be limited-edition product. Yep. You heard me. PRODUCT. Cleaned up and prettified and put on a CD with cover art and everything. It's not all their stuff, but it's a nice 21-song collection of old and new. And, for now, it's only available at the show. so show up. WHOOP! Reply to this message

Posted by: on 09-21-09 about TASM Lab weird, funny, dark, and thoughtful Reply to this message

Posted by: toolmaster on 09-13-09 about all i have the tool masters e-mail e-mail me at kurdt22@yahoo.com Reply to this message

Posted by: Andrew Hogue on 09-12-09 about Desacrator Yeah, the Red Cap. What a great show that was, thanx for inviting us to play that day. Andrew from Sin Sear Reply to this message

Posted by: tony party on 09-12-09 about all who got the Toolmaster yahoo addy? Reply to this message

Posted by: Greg on 09-11-09 about all I don't see Mom Handy on here, man they were good. Reply to this message

Posted by: Ed. on 09-08-09 about everything It's 10th, not the 15th. Reply to this message

Posted by: d on 09-07-09 about all lets get some new Bryers/Oberlin/Till!!! not negative jealous bumholes Reply to this message

Posted by: Bryers on 09-07-09 about everything Everyone go see The Sinatras at Bells on Oct 15th! In response to: Ron C on 09-07-09 for everything Ouch, I've been edited! Ah well, guess I should mind my own business. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Bryers on 09-07-09 about everything Everyone go see The Sinatras at Bells on Oct 15th! In response to: Ron C on 09-07-09 for everything Ouch, I've been edited! Ah well, guess I should mind my own business. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Ron C on 09-07-09 about everything Ouch, I've been edited! Ah well, guess I should mind my own business. Reply to this message

Posted by: Quazimodo on 09-06-09 about Connections FJC, You sure do have a strong opinion about "NOTHING"! Their insignificance sure has your bowels in an uproar! Reply to this message

Posted by: kiry on 09-05-09 about all zzzzzzzzzzzzz Reply to this message

Posted by: anthony g on 09-05-09 about all the whole world is on leon's temple now? man, i'm out of it. Reply to this message

Posted by: fjc on 09-04-09 about Owsla I enjoyed Thought Industry very much and I think that they were very talented and original. But going to a show and watching Brent walk around before they perform and refuse to acknowledge anyone speaking to him was hilarious to watch. I'm surprised he didnt have a few bodyguards with him to rough up anyone who got too close to him. And looking at the posts on this site it doesnt surprise me that he had the attitude that he did. Everyone seems to have a story about how Brent looked at them or how he was only 100 feet away from them back in 92. Oh boy how exciting Brent ignored me one night. you guys are name dropping people who arent even remotely famous!! In response to: Jim Cherry the Daffy Duck dipshit on 09-02-09 for Owsla to Jeff Till - my hats off you to. Check and mate GAME OVER! I'm the Daffy Duck to your Bugs Bunny- Duck Season! RABBIT SEASON! Duck Season! RABBIT SEASON! Rabbit Season! DUCK SEASON FIRE! and BOOM!!! you blew my Duck bill right off my face. I get it now- so... I'm supposed to say "I got PUNKED by Jeff Till- Hook line and sinker! You played me like a Fender Bass and I fell into your web of pranksterness. I bow to your higher intellect. I will say that in my defense the whole reason I was fooled by what you were saying is because back in the day everyone in Kalamazoo always said you were the biggest asshole they ever met. You played the part so well recently that even I fell for it- Kudos to you Mr. Till- I think this is the most fun your web-site has seen in a while- heh?? Reply to this message

Posted by: Ron C on 09-03-09 about everything Thread stopper, yeah yeah yeah! Reply to this message

Posted by: dan on 09-02-09 about Thought Industry ouch. I got to hang out with the later era versions of the band and they were all really cool and hilarious, especially Brent, Jared, Herb, Cam, Jeff, Roche, and Mark. I met Paul a few times and he was really nice too. -just sayin In response to: fjc on 09-02-09 for Thought Industry I went to a lot of thought industry shows back in the day and the vibe I got from the band was that they were megastars and I was lucky to even be allowed to pay the cover and get in. Very late starts to the show didnt help. Brent Oberlin is better suited being an accountant or whatever he got a degree in. They had a great original sound but you have to achieve something before you are a superstar. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: fjc on 09-02-09 about Thought Industry I went to a lot of thought industry shows back in the day and the vibe I got from the band was that they were megastars and I was lucky to even be allowed to pay the cover and get in. Very late starts to the show didnt help. Brent Oberlin is better suited being an accountant or whatever he got a degree in. They had a great original sound but you have to achieve something before you are a superstar. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff Till on 09-02-09 about Owsla PS... Why are you picking on/shitting on Joby all of sudden??? WTF? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff Till on 09-02-09 about Owsla Jim Cherry hates Chris Bryers and thinks he sucks it. So sad. Why do you hate Chris so? Some people who visit this site think Chris is good musician, singer and songwriter. Perhaps you should just go back to your Creed albums or whatever if you despise Bryers so much. Thanks in advance. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff T. on 09-01-09 about Owsla You can be mean, Jim, it just has to be funny too. If you are critical and genuine, even while paying extensive fellatiating back-hand compliments, people will mistake you for being sensitive and intraspective. And then no one will sleep with you. Sorry. In further defense of Owsla, the posted tracks are unfinished demos with scratch vocals (no reverb even) that aren't presented as a finished release, but more as curios for us collectors and fans. Chris had urged me not to post them, but I insisted. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jim Cherry on 09-01-09 about Owsla Jeff- really? I thought i was being nice. I was just telling a story and being honest... if that's not allowed here then I apologize. sorry Bryers- If I hurt your feelings you can kick me in the balls next time you see me. I'd like to say a couple other things but I won't cuz if I can't say nice things I have to keep quiet. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff T. on 08-30-09 about Owsla Jim: If you don't have something nice to say... I only saw Owsla play once, and only less Cathartic than "kiss me mary anne" was an incredible version of "The Beautiful Ones" which was as good as I've seen Chris or anyone else do in kzoo. So there. But, really, Chris is so cook that he even has rebound bands. Ghost Stories is indeed cool (and hopefully more to come here soon) Joby: When your slow leak launch is done, put a package together and we'll post and promote and share here. Reply to this message

Posted by: jim cherry on 08-30-09 about all these songs rocked the hair off my balls and made me blow it in my pants! This kid has picked up the Rock mantle that Chris Bryers put down. Kudos to Joby and his band! Reply to this message

Posted by: jim cherry on 08-30-09 about Bryers just when you think he's made his best Album he comes out with another one to top it- Ghost Stories is THE SHIT! anyone who liked his last Album (Hazel and the Black Rabbit) will not be disapointed with this new Album "Ghost Stories". I've been listening to it non stop for the last 3 days and it's the kind of Album that just keeps getting better and better- just when i think I have a favorite song another one will just hit me and I'll be blown away again and again- this kid has an endless well of talent to write great songs- he's truly gifted Reply to this message

Posted by: jim cherry on 08-30-09 about Fletcher I thought this band was one of the best bands I'd ever seen when Paul Wartella was in it- Paul W was a close friend of mine and of all the bands he played in he told me this was his favorite band to play with- He had mad respect for Bryan Charles- I always thought Skip and Bryers should have started a band together- They would have been the Lennon/MacCartney of Kalamazoo- I only saw this band 3 times but they were definately one of my favorite bands I'd ever seen Reply to this message

Posted by: jim cherry on 08-30-09 about Owsla uhh... yeah... all I remember about Owsla was that I drove 6 hrs round trip from Saginaw (with my then new girlfriend) and all the way to K-zoo I was telling her about my friend Chris Bryers who was the shit & rocked my world in a band called TWITCH- Bryers came up to me after the show and asked me what I thought about the show and being the honest friend that I am I told him the truth- "I want me 4 bucks back since I wasn't on the guest list. It was alright... I mean... It didn't suck or anything but... it wasn't what I wanted to hear- It didn't move me" I just listend to these songs you've got posted and I'm still not impressed- sorry... and I'm Bryers biggest fan next to maybe Jobi P- I just felt like Owsla was a rebound band until he could find his groove again- and then SLEET came out later and I thought- yup! he's back. so there it is... Owsla was like that girl you dated after a big break up because you were afraid of being alone. the thing is- Bryers is such a grreat song writer that even his mediocure stuff STILL sounds awsome to most people- but I'm not most people... so... his new Album "Ghost Stories" is amazing - ALL of his solo stuff is just incredible- check it out if you haven't already. Reply to this message

Posted by: Joby on 08-30-09 about all My band "The Soft Takeover" has a new CD coming out soon and I am currently posting one song a day on our MySpace til' they are all up check em' out if you have a chance! http://www.myspace.com/thesofttakeover Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 08-19-09 about all You can send photos to me at cool @ leons temple . com ( remove spaces). There are hundreds on facebook right now too which I might snitch. Apparently some people have digital cameras integrated into their cellies Reply to this message

Posted by: on 08-18-09 about Rollinghead In response to: John on 08-18-09 for Rollinghead I'd love to see your photos...post 'em here if you can or shoot me an email. john.huff@gmail.com In response to: Banks on 08-16-09 for Rollinghead yeah it was a wonderful show lastnight and I ended up taking a 60 photos in black ind white and many of them turned out really Groovy with just the right shutter speed and blur, does anyone here want them , or can we post them ??? --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- I too would love to see photos. Any chance someone can post them to Flickr or somewhere public and link to theM? Reply to this message

Posted by: John on 08-18-09 about Rollinghead I'd love to see your photos...post 'em here if you can or shoot me an email. john.huff@gmail.com In response to: Banks on 08-16-09 for Rollinghead yeah it was a wonderful show lastnight and I ended up taking a 60 photos in black ind white and many of them turned out really Groovy with just the right shutter speed and blur, does anyone here want them , or can we post them ??? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Master - stars on 08-18-09 about Rollinghead You can download stars and others here on this site leonstemple.com/grant.html In response to: Jen on 08-17-09 for Rollinghead It was so much fun the music and great to see so many people I probably otherwise wouldn't have seen in one place ever again. Time warp back to 1993! What is the name of the song Mike Roche got up and played with them? Stars? I love that song - can't remember the name of it though. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jen on 08-17-09 about Rollinghead It was so much fun the music and great to see so many people I probably otherwise wouldn't have seen in one place ever again. Time warp back to 1993! What is the name of the song Mike Roche got up and played with them? Stars? I love that song - can't remember the name of it though. Reply to this message

Posted by: Miss Michael on 08-17-09 about Owsla My favorite band of all time! I think Chris Bryers is an amazing artist! Charles memoir says it all~I feel truly lucky to have heard this band and felt them, as well! Thank you, Owsla! Reply to this message

Posted by: Joby on 08-17-09 about all Rollinghead show was great, couldn't walk six feet without running into somebody. My favorite comment of the night was from Dave James "I'm not at all surprised to see you here" haha the sound guy left something to be desired but they still undeniably have it. Cameos by Roche, Charlie (impromptu albeit) and Bryers. A little warm out there with such a flippin huge crowd but Oberon was had on the cheap. A great time wish there were more like it more often. Reply to this message

Posted by: Banks on 08-16-09 about Rollinghead yeah it was a wonderful show lastnight and I ended up taking a 60 photos in black ind white and many of them turned out really Groovy with just the right shutter speed and blur, does anyone here want them , or can we post them ??? Reply to this message

Posted by: jeremy s on 08-16-09 about Rollinghead it was 1993 all over again. despite some early guitar tuning trouble, the show went off w/o a hitch. the band seemed tight and sounded as if they hadn't taken a 15 year break. they were very grateful (and seemed surprised) at the number of people in attendance. we had to wait 20 minutes at the door as the doorman said they were at capacity. we had about 25 people in line behind us. the crowd was into it, the music was great, and the weather was perfect. well worth my $7 cover. thanks bill, dave, dave, dean, and willy! when's the new album come out??? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff again on 08-16-09 about Rollinghead Any report from the show? Let us expats know! Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff T. on 08-15-09 about Rollinghead May everyone have a bully time at the Rollinghead show tonight. I bet Bells will be too small of a place for this (and I've never been there before). Let me say that you THINK you want them to play 60 seasons, and favorite killer, and long black feeling, but maybe you should really want them to play "lazy", "I made up a movie" and "Parasites" and "Stars", But you should really wish to hear the brand new album worth of the new songs Dave and crew have been writing since 1995 Reply to this message

Posted by: Hi Stormy on 08-15-09 about Rollinghead I'm glad THIS site isn't blocked. The flyer (to your right) says 9:30 In response to: Stormy on 08-13-09 for Rollinghead What time is the show? Bell's site is blocked at work > Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 08-14-09 about Rollinghead The rollinghead MP3 links are fixed. Sorry for the trouble, they were fucked up in the server move months ago Reply to this message

Posted by: Stormy on 08-13-09 about Rollinghead What time is the show? Bell's site is blocked at work >< In response to: Dean on 07-16-09 for Rollinghead Come and see Rollinghead at Bell's Brewery on Aug. 15th. Should be cool. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Stormy on 08-13-09 about Rollinghead What time is the show? Bell's site is blocked at work >< In response to: Dean on 07-16-09 for Rollinghead Come and see Rollinghead at Bell's Brewery on Aug. 15th. Should be cool. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Andy and Robin TenBrink on 08-12-09 about Rollinghead Hey Dean and Amy, Same comment as everyone else....can't believe that Robin and I were in Bell's and say the flyer for Rolling head!! Can't believe we came 2500 miles for a beer at Bell's. One weekend too early. Find us on facebook if your up for it. Andy In response to: Dean on 07-16-09 for Rollinghead Come and see Rollinghead at Bell's Brewery on Aug. 15th. Should be cool. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 08-07-09 about Rollinghead Do one better and send the cassette (encoded in mp3's) to the 'temple so we can all here. Send files to cool @ leons temple. com In response to: Elvis Karate on 08-07-09 for Rollinghead I have a copy of the Confirmations Cassette. I'll bring it to Bells on the 15th. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Elvis Karate on 08-07-09 about Rollinghead Mike Roche, Dave Grant where was my frickn't e-mail or phone call about this gig. I had to learn about if from the bathroom wall at Bell's. I was supposed to race the mideast Triathlon Championships in Kentucky on the 15th. I think my team will be one light. I gotta go see Rollinghead. I just hope they don't Suck :) PS Dean and Dave looking forward to seeing you guys after 20 years. The Drysdales say hello. Reply to this message

Posted by: Elvis Karate on 08-07-09 about Rollinghead I have a copy of the Confirmations Cassette. I'll bring it to Bells on the 15th. Reply to this message

Posted by: marklar on 08-03-09 about Monoglot - Dynamic Ribbon No Floria? What the hell! Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff T. on 08-01-09 about all Noah - feel free to write your own Top 10 list and put Cam up there at #2. Maybe 'best musicians' or 'most vocal insomniacs'. Or maybe best 'drummer + guitarist', which, besides Cam and Mike, include Halsey (Thumper), Ron Muniz, myself (others?) Geoff - weren't the Helmet guys all reputedly music school fags, covorting with the likes of John Zorn..? I have a vague memory of the urban legend. Reply to this message

Posted by: Geoffrey on 08-01-09 about all This is really funny to me, and I figured might be funny to this group too. Out here in Portland, there's a farm that hosts cheap, family friendly entertainment on Thursdays during the summer. You bring a blanket and a picnic, walk around and pick blueberries, go for hay rides, chase roosters, bump elbows with Portland's breeding contingent. On a recent visit, we enjoyed a 30's era jazz group that featured Henry Bogdan, original bassist for Helmet playing Hawaiian steel guitar. I don't even know where to start the ironic commentary, there are so many directions to come at it, so I'll leave you all to your own imaginations and say that it was more wholesome than you could possibly imagine. Reply to this message

Posted by: Noah on 08-01-09 about Top 10 How does Cam Taylor NOT make a top 10 guitarist list? I know! It's because he rocks the fucking drums just as hard...outside of Roche that guy's the best fucking musician Kalamazoo has ever seen. Reply to this message

Posted by: Geoffrey on 08-01-09 about all This is really funny to me, and I figured might be funny to this group too. Out here in Portland, there's a farm that hosts cheap, family friendly entertainment on Thursdays during the summer. You bring a blanket and a picnic, walk around and pick blueberries, go for hay rides, chase roosters, bump elbows with Portland's breeding contingent. On a recent visit, we enjoyed a 30's era jazz group that featured Henry Bogdan, original bassist for Helmet playing Hawaiian steel guitar. I don't even know where to start the ironic commentary, there are so many directions to come at it, so I'll leave you all to your own imaginations and say that it was more wholesome than you could possibly imagine. Reply to this message

Posted by: Doyle on 07-31-09 about Author Darrin Doyle Hey man, thanks for reading my book and for giving it such an excellent writeup! Rock on! Reply to this message

Posted by: dug on 07-27-09 about all Jef, it's great to know that someone else is out there making a ruckus and it's about time. long live the rawk... and stuff. Reply to this message

Posted by: dug on 07-27-09 about all it's a cover. as are most of them. tho they're charming. In response to: Craniac on 07-25-09 for all "The Good Doctor" page isn't working. I'm inquiring about the song "Me and Devil"; is it original? A local band in this small town played it last Halloween, and I should have just asked them. Anyone? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: BlackRabbit on 07-26-09 about Killswitch After watching a very informative programs on the lives of civets, I have come to the conclusion your hint was a hoax. If it were not a matter of dire import that he be found, I would have given up the search long ago. His half of the Krugerrands will not bury themselves,and though I could find alternative buskers to fill his position in the traveling show, I just cannot convince myself it would be the same. He needs to know that I have captured C. Haskey, and have brought him here to my desert of desserts, but I have already delved deeper into dangerous details than is decorous. blakkrabbyt@yahoo Reply to this message

Posted by: Craniac on 07-25-09 about all "The Good Doctor" page isn't working. I'm inquiring about the song "Me and Devil"; is it original? A local band in this small town played it last Halloween, and I should have just asked them. Anyone? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff Huchinson on 07-23-09 about all Wish I planned my kzoo trip for later in the summer. This would be a great show to catch. Anyone who nabs this gig is in for a super-snack! Have fun you lucky bastards! Xoxo-hutchy(ptown-OR) Reply to this message

Posted by: Shauna Bommerscheim-Schrader on 07-22-09 about Rollinghead This means you'll be there right? Girl, are you back in town? It seems like someone/something tells me you are around. I would love to see you and hopefully you'll be at the show. We have lots of friends coming into town for this show and I can hardly wait! Do you have digits/info on Leslie? I would love to see you guys. Peace....Shauna Reply to this message

Posted by: Angela Carrion (formerly Pollack) on 07-19-09 about Rollinghead I almost fell out of my seat when I saw the flyer re: show @ Bells. My girl Les and I have known Mr. Axe since high school and remain big fans of Rollinghead. Les burned me a copy of LBF some months ago and have been enjoying ever since. Can't wait to see who will turn up @ show...Tom Griffoen? Andrew F. Bennett? Tom Fuller? (Hey dude you need to call me!) Road I? Charlie? Steven Chamberlin, I AM CALLING YOU OUT! Let me know if you want a gig in Saugatuck. Xoxxo Reply to this message

Posted by: ben on 07-17-09 about Rollinghead Rollinghead? is that for real? thats gonna be the business In response to: Dean on 07-16-09 for Rollinghead Come and see Rollinghead at Bell's Brewery on Aug. 15th. Should be cool. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Dean on 07-16-09 about Rollinghead Come and see Rollinghead at Bell's Brewery on Aug. 15th. Should be cool. Reply to this message

Posted by: Chafe Hensley's wife on 07-15-09 about Monoglot - Dynamic Ribbon It was so gracious of you to at least include my first name, and not simply call me Mrs. Chafe Hensley. Reply to this message

Posted by: colin on 07-09-09 about all I guess somewhat, only trying to keep as busy as you. You're stuff is awesome. Reply to this message

Posted by: DuG on 06-24-09 about Connections best stuff i've heard from you Cap'n Colin in a long time. is that what you and Carl were working on back in Chi? -d In response to: Colin Bradford on 06-10-09 for Connections New music from Colin www.myspace.com/theapologyband --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: eternal motivator on 06-23-09 about Killswitch jim jones is still missing by design. you can often times find him on television and radio giving the community at large a solid tongue lashing/invitation. i believe he finds hiding in plain sight the premier therapy for his orbital hip-bone. i can only suggest watching the discovery or documentary channels in the near future to find his hidden port o' call. Reply to this message

Posted by: Colin H. on 06-23-09 about Club Soda calendars actually, I have quite a few more. maybe I can work out a deal with Joby to get the old ones back in exchange for some more. Perhaps in a year or two! lol Reply to this message

Posted by: Colin Bradford on 06-10-09 about Connections New music from Colin www.myspace.com/theapologyband Reply to this message

Posted by: John W. on 06-07-09 about all I would love to score Straw Village's "Living Here in Kalamazoo". Anyone have this to upload? Nothing like the verse "chasing stray cats down an alley with a torch. Reply to this message

Posted by: Robert Wax (from the K-zoo band Cairo) on 06-03-09 about Club Soda calendars Very cool site! It was a blast reading all of the calendars! Seeing our band name was nice. Reply to this message

Posted by: A Second Cousin.. on 05-31-09 about all Jason Fortier, We have never but i just found out that you are my second cousin. My mom is Elizabeth Johnston. Its cool as hell to think i have a family member in a band. I think ive met brooke when she visited my grandparents in TN. Anyway im now on the search for your CD. If you ever get a chance email me...BentleyZMommy@Gmail.com Reply to this message

Posted by: Shinerod on 05-25-09 about Obtrusive Mode Yes! The anal birth of Bert rules... In response to: DuG on 05-18-09 for Obtrusive Mode like when Ben Wessell gave everyone the full monty in G.R., good times... or the underwear party, or the puppet show with Dave giving birth to a muppet. meth is a hell of a drug. In response to: ben w. on 05-17-09 for Obtrusive Mode i still think hog was better --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Shinerod on 05-25-09 about FAQ All hail Brent Whetter!!! Reply to this message

Posted by: Shinerod on 05-25-09 about Obtrusive Mode I've still got the Obtrusive Mode "Spores" disc. Custom signed by Belson, no less! Reply to this message

Posted by: dee on 05-25-09 about Resin Mattress nice to hear this shit again! Lots of fun! Reply to this message

Posted by: DuG on 05-18-09 about Obtrusive Mode like when Ben Wessell gave everyone the full monty in G.R., good times... or the underwear party, or the puppet show with Dave giving birth to a muppet. meth is a hell of a drug. In response to: ben w. on 05-17-09 for Obtrusive Mode i still think hog was better --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: ben w. on 05-17-09 about Obtrusive Mode i still think hog was better Reply to this message

Posted by: DuG on 05-17-09 about Obtrusive Mode robots ate my babies. please take them away. Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 05-16-09 about all I'm still working on this month's update but had to quit suddenly. More to come (maybe) Reply to this message

Posted by: MarkLarmee on 05-07-09 about all Hey you sweet folks. I feel like that kid at the 4th Coast counter, cornering you about his band, so... check out my band. Minutes is a new Kalamazoo band featuring members of at least 4 bands on the list below, including a few other Kzoo bands and several Dischord bands. Members have also collectively worked at Harvey's, Club Soda, The Space, and Kraftbrau. It doesn't get more Kalamazoo than that. http://www.myspace.com/minuteskzoo Thanks for obliging this 30-something rock guy. Reply to this message

Posted by: Benito on 05-06-09 about all Wow, was coming of age in the early nineties, visiting Kzoo to see TI, GHG and Twitch among others, then moved there. Haven't seen a scene like it since. Honest, intelligent, melodic metal. Hail satan. Reply to this message

Posted by: on 05-05-09 about all Do the Twitch Jeff!! ahhhhhhhh!!!! sorry, take your time. Do the Vandyke dudes still play? anyone? Reply to this message

Posted by: cultureofnone.com on 05-05-09 about all just found Verve Pipe 'I've Suffered A Head Injury' CD ep at a thrift store. Reply to this message

Posted by: cultureofnone.com on 05-05-09 about all just found Verve Pipe 'I've Suffered A Head Injury' CD ep at a thrift store. Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 04-27-09 about all I was sort of thinking that a few hours I posted the info. Please apply all dork/nerdlinger comments to Spaeth instead of Paul. Paul would've worn his "fuck art, let's kill" shirt and made his ass cheeks talk a la Ace Ventura In response to: the pro co rat on 04-26-09 for all that's steve spaeth in the TI photo, not NZO. must be one of the first TI shows- maybe the same one as the 'chalice vermillion' video on youtube? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: the pro co rat on 04-26-09 about all that's steve spaeth in the TI photo, not NZO. must be one of the first TI shows- maybe the same one as the 'chalice vermillion' video on youtube? Reply to this message

Posted by: the pro co rat on 04-26-09 about all that's steve spaeth in the TI photo, not NZO. must be one of the first TI shows- maybe the same one as the 'chalice vermillion' video on youtube? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 04-24-09 about all Here Brent what? Burp? Talk about the nuances of managing a bar/grill, or how to comply with inter-state tax codes, or how to tune a guitar whilst playing it? Yea, we get to hear Brent plenty here in Boston. Reply to this message

Posted by: srthhtrs on 04-23-09 about all Can we hear Brent? does Boston get to hear Brent? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff Till on 04-14-09 about King Tammy I just ordered it at Amazon for $11 new. I will submit a book report when I'm done reading it. In response to: amy on 04-10-09 for King Tammy Darrin's book "Revenge of the Teacher's Pet" is out now and available, at least on line and at Michigan News. he did a reading last night at WMU's Little Theater. I grabbed a copy last night and have started the first chapter. God love him, it's just what you would hope a King Tammyman fine-tuning and super-charging his craft would come up with. So far, a great blend of humor, sadness, sweetness and straight-up weirdness. "I LOVE EGGS" appears in the first paragraph. GIT IT! --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: dan k. on 04-13-09 about all Jeff, your hair is so perfect in that pic. You look like one of your paintings Reply to this message

Posted by: amy on 04-10-09 about King Tammy Darrin's book "Revenge of the Teacher's Pet" is out now and available, at least on line and at Michigan News. he did a reading last night at WMU's Little Theater. I grabbed a copy last night and have started the first chapter. God love him, it's just what you would hope a King Tammyman fine-tuning and super-charging his craft would come up with. So far, a great blend of humor, sadness, sweetness and straight-up weirdness. "I LOVE EGGS" appears in the first paragraph. GIT IT! Reply to this message

Posted by: wwww on 04-01-09 about Sleet I'm glad I had a chance to see them a few times . The EP is still in rotation in my cd player. Reply to this message

Posted by: esmulder on 03-30-09 about Top 10 was not erin in said midgets? In response to: Jeffs top ten songs on 11-13-07 for Top 10 "Bass Player Body Parts" is the top 10 scheduled for December. We're going to get those nice tits in there for sure. Right between Fortier's single dread, Chuck's pumpkin, and Bill's metal claw. In response to: Erin Dwight on 11-11-07 for Top 10 Yeah, Police Riot Midgets' bass player totally rocks, she is also super fuckin' hott. Nice tits. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: shagged-by-rusty on 03-29-09 about all bob of FAQ Reply to this message

Posted by: shagged-by-rusty on 03-29-09 about FAQ who is bob playing with???!? Reply to this message

Posted by: "Ethical" Paul Bruneau on 03-28-09 about Triplemint Thanks for your great site. I can tell Mark submitted our story due to the hyperbole and the poor spelling :) I see you don't have our audio files so I posted them for all to download: http://ethicalpaul.com/music/GarbanzoBeam.zip Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 03-28-09 about contribute info I'm afraid we've completely forgotten both Sludge Butts and Cumsludge. This may irreconcilable In response to: J. Keyser on 03-28-09 for contribute info Don't forget the following bands...all around 1990-93 Cryonax Worhead Fuse Headache Machine Scrotum Pole Mezz Chamber Sludge Butts Dactyl Karnage Cumsludge --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: J. Keyser on 03-28-09 about contribute info Don't forget the following bands...all around 1990-93 Cryonax Worhead Fuse Headache Machine Scrotum Pole Mezz Chamber Sludge Butts Dactyl Karnage Cumsludge Reply to this message

Posted by: formerly known as robin sussex on 03-24-09 about Club Soda calendars PLEASE specify WHICH robin was crowd surfing without panties. I am told that I now have a growing fan base! This was brought to my attention by a co worker/aka local rocker. To those of you who care, I really miss the majority of the bands that played at soda and the band members. This was a part of my life that I will always cherish, despite the way it ended. glad to hear you guys are still rockin' sorry though, you wont see this robin crowd surfing at your show, ha ha. hope none of you hate me for what happened to jeff, i tried to stop it, but he wouldnt listen. later people In response to: Jeff on 02-17-09 for Club Soda calendars 21?? I thought you were like 40 at the time. I presume Robin was wearing a skirt and not pants, else the pantie thing wouldn't have made much of a difference. What happened to her panties? (A: she smoked them) In response to: kiry on 02-17-09 for Club Soda calendars alice donut and didjits on my 21st birthday...oh those were the days....robin crowd surfing with no panties?...classic --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: formerly known as robin sussex on 03-24-09 about Club Soda calendars PLEASE specify WHICH robin was crowd surfing without panties. I am told that I now have a growing fan base! This was brought to my attention by a co worker/aka local rocker. To those of you who care, I really miss the majority of the bands that played at soda and the band members. This was a part of my life that I will always cherish, despite the way it ended. glad to hear you guys are still rockin' sorry though, you wont see this robin crowd surfing at your show, ha ha. hope none of you hate me for what happened to jeff, i tried to stop it, but he wouldnt listen. later people Reply to this message

Posted by: mpcoc on 03-20-09 about all mpcoccan anybody tell me, if those "demo clips from (what would have been) the next thought industry album" are ever goin to be proper songs and will be released? because this stuff is flaming! mpcoc Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 03-19-09 about all Fixed. Someone should check all of those song links. In response to: Lee Barton on 03-18-09 for all Catharsis page is down. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Lee Barton on 03-18-09 about all Catharsis page is down. Reply to this message

Posted by: Tim Houtkooper on 03-12-09 about Lo-Fi Scorpio LO-FI SCORPIO ON FACEBOOK Reply to this message

Posted by: Brennan on 03-11-09 about Monoglot - Dynamic Ribbon Yeah, I suppose I wasn't very clear. The band is Dynamic Ribbon Device, and the recording is the Crackertax EP. Reply to this message

Posted by: Steffen on 03-05-09 about all hey, the thought industry link doesn't, if you haven't already noticed Reply to this message

Posted by: Steffen on 03-05-09 about all hey, the thought industry link doesn't, if you haven't already noticed Reply to this message

Posted by: Ron Sinatra on 03-05-09 about all Reminding you that The Sinatras will be performing live on WIDR's "The Basement Show" Monday, March 9th. The show starts at 7:00pm. Steam it live at http://www.widr.org Reply to this message

Posted by: Lisa on 02-24-09 about The Casies dude! that cool! Thanks for sharing lisa Reply to this message

Posted by: the kap'n on 02-24-09 about Club Soda calendars Confuse a Cat were approachable. At one show, I glommed on to one of the band members, all excited by the Python reference... he didn't seem to mind at all. Detroit bands seemed (seem) to come in two variations, great mates or total assholes.Jabberwock (I think the calendar listing is a misspelling, I'm too lazy to dig up my proof right now) deserve to be listed under "Leppotone itself"... I think they'd be surprised to be found listed as/with "Weekenders"!Sinatras played at least a couple of shows with Jabberwock. I found out, quite belatedly, that they'd pressed a small-hole 7" single on the Leppotone imprint, which carries the same label # as the debut Sinatras 7". I was totally unaware of the abandoned release (and I'm unclear as to why it went unreleased) until I worked with T Gregor at Flipside in '98... he showed up one night with copies of the damn thing! We decided to sell about half a dozen double-packs of both LT-002 singles as a 2-fer super-cheap, wish you were there!At any rate, Tony went on to Monster Zero with Matt S., if I'm not mistaken. I'm not mistaken that the two of them were 2/3 of the Rural Electrification Act, a superb trio on whose CD I would have played keys if I hadn't been in new-dad mode, not willing to take on extra recording duties... I still remember turning Matt down on the phone... having heard the resulting CD, I regret the decision. RIP REA. In response to: Carl on 02-19-09 for Club Soda calendars Confuse a Cat was out of Detroit. Think they were a 3 piece(maybe 4) with at least one female. Can't be positive on that one. They were real approachable people though and I believe I still have their 7" in storage someplace. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: DECONSTRUCTOR on 02-23-09 about everything CAN WE GET "LIGHT YOURSELF ON FIRE" POSTED? Reply to this message

Posted by: Alan Bainbridge on 02-22-09 about everything As far as The Deconstruction's album, We broke up before it every could be released. As far as I know the DAT's got stolen or lost. All that was left were cassette copies which Scott Towne had preserved to CD a few years ago. It was a nine song album called "Light Yourself On Fire". In response to: Deconstructor on 02-03-09 for everything WHERE'S THE "LOST" DECONSTRUCTION RECORD????!!!! HUH? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 02-20-09 about all The Sinatras it seems will be playing on something called "the basement show" on WIDR on Monday March 9th from 7-8pm. Reply to this message

Posted by: Carl on 02-19-09 about Club Soda calendars Confuse a Cat was out of Detroit. Think they were a 3 piece(maybe 4) with at least one female. Can't be positive on that one. They were real approachable people though and I believe I still have their 7" in storage someplace. Reply to this message

Posted by: Tommy on 02-18-09 about Grant and Roche Why do I weep every time Grant opens his mouth? Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 02-18-09 about Club Soda calendars I think there is a movie idea somewhere in hanging Jared's burger wrapper on your wall. I would see it like "wilson" in Cast Away. In response to: dan k. on 02-17-09 for Club Soda calendars I thought I was the only dork that kept those calendars so I threw mine out years ago. I used to have one signed by T.I. on my bedroom wall in high school. I saw them at the Wendy's across from soda before a show. I also stole Jared's burger wrapper which I hung from the wall too. Now that was going too far. I should have had them sign the Wendy's wrapper. Thought Industry is my Beatles. Bryers is my Rolling Stones. Dave Grant is my Elvis. Jeff, you are my Andrew Lloyd Weber/Picasso. fu#k seattle --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Culture Of None (Adam C. Paul) on 02-17-09 about Club Soda calendars dan k., damn that's a touching post. you said it all. In response to: dan k. on 02-17-09 for Club Soda calendars I thought I was the only dork that kept those calendars so I threw mine out years ago. I used to have one signed by T.I. on my bedroom wall in high school. I saw them at the Wendy's across from soda before a show. I also stole Jared's burger wrapper which I hung from the wall too. Now that was going too far. I should have had them sign the Wendy's wrapper. Thought Industry is my Beatles. Bryers is my Rolling Stones. Dave Grant is my Elvis. Jeff, you are my Andrew Lloyd Weber/Picasso. fu#k seattle --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: dan k. on 02-17-09 about Club Soda calendars I thought I was the only dork that kept those calendars so I threw mine out years ago. I used to have one signed by T.I. on my bedroom wall in high school. I saw them at the Wendy's across from soda before a show. I also stole Jared's burger wrapper which I hung from the wall too. Now that was going too far. I should have had them sign the Wendy's wrapper. Thought Industry is my Beatles. Bryers is my Rolling Stones. Dave Grant is my Elvis. Jeff, you are my Andrew Lloyd Weber/Picasso. fu#k seattle Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 02-17-09 about Club Soda calendars 21?? I thought you were like 40 at the time. I presume Robin was wearing a skirt and not pants, else the pantie thing wouldn't have made much of a difference. What happened to her panties? (A: she smoked them) In response to: kiry on 02-17-09 for Club Soda calendars alice donut and didjits on my 21st birthday...oh those were the days....robin crowd surfing with no panties?...classic --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: kiry on 02-17-09 about Club Soda calendars alice donut and didjits on my 21st birthday...oh those were the days....robin crowd surfing with no panties?...classic Reply to this message

Posted by: Joby on 02-16-09 about Club Soda calendars Thanks for keeping them and I assure you they are in the same condition now as when I recieved them haha you'll get em back soon... Reply to this message

Posted by: Colin H on 02-16-09 about Club Soda calendars FYI, Excepting the one with the big black TBA s, these calanders were drawn up by Tom Kennedy, the one time Soda barmaster extraordinare. I believe the TBA one was done by another soda bartender, John DeRyke. Thanks to Joby and Jeff for getting these up and calming my fears that they were used for lighting the charcoal at some drunken BBQ. Cheers! Reply to this message

Posted by: Craig on 02-16-09 about Club Soda calendars I think the "fight" night was with Lungfish. I think. Reply to this message

Posted by: anthony g on 02-14-09 about everything you gotta love kalamazoo... people imitating (or posing as) jim cherry? if you told me 15 years ago that in 2009, many years after jim was gone, people would be posing as him on the internetz, i would have believed you. jim, you're a star man. love you brother. i know i was never part of the inner circle in kalamzoo... but i thought i would add my band here anyway. myspace.com/jehovahswitnessprotectionprogram from one shithole to another... kalamazoo to ypsilanti. kalamazoo smelled better. Reply to this message

Posted by: anthony g on 02-14-09 about everything you gotta love kalamazoo... people imitating (or posing as) jim cherry? if you told me 15 years ago that in 2009, many years after jim was gone, people would be posing as him on the internetz, i would have believed you. jim, you're a star man. love you brother. i know i was never part of the inner circle in kalamzoo... but i thought i would add my band here anyway. myspace.com/jehovahswitnessprotectionprogram from one shithole to another... kalamazoo to ypsilanti. kalamazoo smelled better. Reply to this message

Posted by: Poach on 02-14-09 about Love Offering The motorcycle's a long story, Tom... but the answer is "sorta." In response to: Tom on 11-20-08 for Love Offering Poacher you crazy ass sum bitch.....you still got my old motorcycle? Tom --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: kg on 02-13-09 about GHG Really awesome stuff! I love Brent's voice, and the whole thing just sounds insane in a good (but nearly literal) way. Wish they put out more stuff... and I wish there was official lyrics to this! I know what's being said about... eh.... 75% of the time, but would love to know what the actual lyrics were, as thought industry's lyrics were always really cool in a stream-of-conscious way. :) Reply to this message

Posted by: Rebecca and Pete Markus on 02-10-09 about Rollinghead This is a great day! Thank you for this site and the music! We loved going to Rollinghead shows in K-zoo circa 1992 and before! LOVE the music LOVE the vocals! Good thing we are "Not too damn old for this!" Thanks again and again and agin! Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff master on 02-08-09 about all I don't think the library copies are replacements, and I think it is a bully fine idea to have the materials there. I thought my use of the term 'quaint' was accurate and considerate though. It means (from the dictionary): "Charmingly odd, especially in an old-fashioned way". While whomever is at the library, be sure to bookmark the 'temple on the library's computers. Thanks Joby, I will get them up. You are a valued servant to the scene (Obama talk). I'll be sure to re-visit LeppoTone soon. Reply to this message

Posted by: Joby on 02-08-09 about all Uploaded the Calenders Reply to this message

Posted by: on 02-08-09 about all For the record - I would not want to consider library loans to be replacements for the finds on this site... why should they not go together?,.. I mean, Western Union still exists... In response to: the kap'n on 02-08-09 for all In response to: Jeff Master on 02-06-09 for all Gee, sorry it seems quaint for libraries to want to make (questionably) historical material available to people who don't have access to internet download privileges... or did everyone here forget what it was like to not be able to afford certain tools and networks of communication that allowed one to get at what they wanted when they wanted? People who own beat-to-hell Discmans, who still want to hear the sounds of bands who they might have seen, or heard of through their friends, or PARENTS, or parents' FRIENDS, do indeed borrow materials through the "quaint" services of their public library, and, since they're not flying any rocket ships today or tomorrow, enjoy seeing and hearing the genuine artifacts of "Girth" or "Daddyhorse" or etc., liners, graphics, and all. Didn't think asking for more was an archaic, or even rude, request. Also - one can be anonymous at Leppotone now, so feel free to fire ammo there anon'ly if the site doesn't acknowledge your desire to be present there (why would it if you're not going to Outback?). Truly, I'm not to be trusted as a rep of any site or clique, so caveats if it seems I was "calling" anyone out on behalf of Leppotone, as anyone trawling there knows that site's full of all kinds of fuckin' foolishness. Personally, I'm really just trying to get the LT site's "clique"'s scene fully represented among the materials available at a lending library that serves a populace that still lives in the city that cared about most of you once upon a time (and do perhaps still, regardless of your exotic domestic locales now and in the future), and would be happy to have your hard-copy artifacts among its collection. JM - I'm no Lepposite master - but if you need - as D. Boon suggested- a "validation" - I can vouch for ya... consider that a fine how d'ya do, fuckface! --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: the kap'n on 02-08-09 about all In response to: Jeff Master on 02-06-09 for all Gee, sorry it seems quaint for libraries to want to make (questionably) historical material available to people who don't have access to internet download privileges... or did everyone here forget what it was like to not be able to afford certain tools and networks of communication that allowed one to get at what they wanted when they wanted? People who own beat-to-hell Discmans, who still want to hear the sounds of bands who they might have seen, or heard of through their friends, or PARENTS, or parents' FRIENDS, do indeed borrow materials through the "quaint" services of their public library, and, since they're not flying any rocket ships today or tomorrow, enjoy seeing and hearing the genuine artifacts of "Girth" or "Daddyhorse" or etc., liners, graphics, and all. Didn't think asking for more was an archaic, or even rude, request. Also - one can be anonymous at Leppotone now, so feel free to fire ammo there anon'ly if the site doesn't acknowledge your desire to be present there (why would it if you're not going to Outback?). Truly, I'm not to be trusted as a rep of any site or clique, so caveats if it seems I was "calling" anyone out on behalf of Leppotone, as anyone trawling there knows that site's full of all kinds of fuckin' foolishness. Personally, I'm really just trying to get the LT site's "clique"'s scene fully represented among the materials available at a lending library that serves a populace that still lives in the city that cared about most of you once upon a time (and do perhaps still, regardless of your exotic domestic locales now and in the future), and would be happy to have your hard-copy artifacts among its collection. JM - I'm no Lepposite master - but if you need - as D. Boon suggested- a "validation" - I can vouch for ya... consider that a fine how d'ya do, fuckface! --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff Master on 02-06-09 about all So far we've only had a few imposters, so I'm not too concerned yet. The really old TI board had them so badly it had to be shut down. Leppotone uses sign ons, (oddly, my account was never validated, let me in guys!) I decided not to use one so that people could post more easily and hopefully more. Not to be flip, but being available for loan at the library seems a bit quaint compared to downloadable for free everywhere on line. It's like getting a new buggywhip for your rocket ship. Steffen, does 'flaming' mean 'good' in Denmark?? After all of the homo references on Mods, we should be precise... Reply to this message

Posted by: John C. on 02-06-09 about all Looks like Leppotone is calling out Leons Temple. They must have serious discussion over there. In response to: the kap'n on 02-06-09 for all Well, the music and memorabilia found on this site are swell, but the foolishness goin' on in the "discussion" makes it embarrassing to post anything legit. The liberry really does want real deal CDs as released by their makers, whenever you want. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: the kap'n on 02-06-09 about all Well, the music and memorabilia found on this site are swell, but the foolishness goin' on in the "discussion" makes it embarrassing to post anything legit. The liberry really does want real deal CDs as released by their makers, whenever you want. Reply to this message

Posted by: Steffen add killorama.de on 02-06-09 about Thought Industry can anybody tell me, if those "demo clips from (what would have been) the next thought industry album" are ever goin to be proper songs and will be released? because this stuff is flaming! Reply to this message

Posted by: Jobi Burns on 02-05-09 about all from now on anyone who says there name is Jim Cherry is full of dookie. period. I will no longer use my REAL name on this site so anyone using the name Jim Cherry is fu*cking with someone. Now I'm just pissed. so once again... I will NOT use my real name anymore on this site so anyone using the name Jim Cherry is a liar. Don't pay attention to them. I'll give anyone tons of cash if they tell me who this imposter is so I can beat him with a pillow full of soap bars. I STILL have so many stalkers from being a famous ROCK STAR that I'm now worried I have a Chapman on my hands... I was never in a car accident and I didn't get any money from a settelment. whoever it is they broke the rules and now I'm gonna break someone's nose. Reply to this message

Posted by: the REAL JIM CHERRY on 02-05-09 about all In all honesty I got pretty darn worked up, and I still have butt breath. Interestingly enough, I'm now inspired by this prankster (Kiry? Yorgo?) to release some kind of Doxie CD anthology. The courts recently awarded me a big chunk of change for a car accident last year. I'm okay. No worries. Geoff, lets get together on this. SHAZAM!!! In response to: Master on 02-04-09 for all OK everybody, no pretending to be someone else. It is part of the rules. Rule 2: Make jokes really obvious and easy to get, like "I'm Jim Cherry and I like to kiss and sniff my own butt". And a Doxie DVD isn't too far out there. please consider that you've been solicited, with all seriousness, to pose questions to Dusty Donalds and reprint lyrics to Locomotive God. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 02-04-09 about all OK everybody, no pretending to be someone else. It is part of the rules. Rule 2: Make jokes really obvious and easy to get, like "I'm Jim Cherry and I like to kiss and sniff my own butt". And a Doxie DVD isn't too far out there. please consider that you've been solicited, with all seriousness, to pose questions to Dusty Donalds and reprint lyrics to Locomotive God. Reply to this message

Posted by: the REAL JIM CHERRY on 02-04-09 about all yes this is a JOKE- Someone is pulling your leg man... unless someone has my name too... but I doubt it. I suggest someone find out who it is and tell them to stop folling around. I can't imagine why someone would want to do this other than to get access to information from you guys.... anyway... Joby Purucker knows how to contact me- I guess I'll have to come up with a code name now like... Billy Batson from SHAZAM!!!!! Reply to this message

Posted by: the real Jim Cherry on 02-04-09 about all uh... who the heck is pretending to be me??? Bryers just told me someone is using my name... it's not me so... I don't know why someone would do this...but stop it or I will be forced to get my posse together and come find whoever you are and give you a lick in the face with my nasty butt breath- SHAZAM!!! Reply to this message

Posted by: on 02-03-09 about all There is an article about free music that includes a little blurb about your site: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/feature.php?id=5661 Reply to this message

Posted by: Deconstructor on 02-03-09 about everything WHERE'S THE "LOST" DECONSTRUCTION RECORD????!!!! HUH? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jim Cherry on 02-02-09 about all Geoff, I'm not cutting you out of this deal, my man. I love Doxie! In fact, your sister knows all about it. She's the one who sent me the outtakes. And Karl, I'll be in town next week. I will be bringing by some choice jams from K'zoo's glory days. See you soon. In response to: Geoffrey on 01-31-09 for all " Is this a joke? I was gonna put together a Doxie Facebook page and realized that there's like 5 photos of us playing live (that I own) and a poor quality video of a show at Soda (we were never very good archivists). I figured I'd send anyone looking for the songs to this site. After reviewing what I had to work with, it was looking like my vanity page would end up pretty thin, so I kinda didn't put up a Doxie FB page. So now I see this talk of interviews and concert footage - I'm excited, I didn't know such things existed. Maybe I'll get to create my page after all and garner all the respect that I so richly deserve...Um Jim, we need to discuss royalties. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: the kap'n on 02-01-09 about all Jim is half right. I don't recall chatting with the history prof, tho' I may have, and forgot, no offense to Dr. Hyland (who, if reading, should note that, while professionally otherwise, I'm a rocker, memory loss and all). However, I've been trying to get a decent collection of local music, regardless of vintage, available for loan at the KPLiberry for, oh, a decade-plus now. (The Doxie CD, by the way, was donated to us by a certain Paul R. half a decade ago - it goes out quite a bit, but always comes back, not always the case for other bands' releases I find at Goodwills, buy and donate, then the liberry loses - privacy laws prevent me from revealing thieves' names, but I know who you are/were.) I've been half-assed about asking those trawling around these parts - could we please have your CD? (We have a bunch... check the catalog to see if you're an author search, akin to John Updike and Bryan Charles!) The liberry doesn't want T's and flyers, etc. - we're not interested in archiving, we're interested in making work available for borrowing. Has to be a CD at this point. Which means we need special releases from FAQ, Catharsis, VA, etc. We've accepted CD-R's... just give us some nice artwork... liners are a bonus. It's your history. By the way, at least one of those bands of "standup dudes" invited the smallish audience attending a show the Sinatras headlined out to a party immediately after their opening set, wiping out much of our audience, since the band was much more "user-friendly" than we three. Thanks! "I know that you're leaving, as soon as you get paaaaid"- Nirvana, "Frances Farmer Will Have Her Revenge On Seattle" In response to: Geoffrey on 01-31-09 for all Is this a joke? Jim Cherry wrote: ... there is a history prof at WMU who is building some kind of pop culture archives focusing on local art and music... working with K*rl from the Sinatras who is helping put together a similar collection at the public library. Reply to this message

Posted by: Monica W. on 01-31-09 about Lo-Fi Scorpio If there is still a Tim H. out there please e-mail back @mlwilley86@yahoo.com. yes..... Monica/Star Reply to this message

Posted by: Geoffrey on 01-31-09 about all "...making the case for the likes of MOM HANDY and THE ERJ to be included in our hot beer cotillion. I was going to let GEOFF HALSEY make these decisions, as a clique has to have boundaries to be a proper clique..." Yeah, I was draggin my feet a little on this one I guess, but now that you've created a new category, I say why not? 15 years later I think we're all old and experienced enough to acknowledge that some pretty fundamental differences existed between bands like THE ERJ and bands like TWITCH, but I remember most of those guys and they were always standup dudes and deserve to be included. "...I'm putting out a Doxie retrospective DVD full of candid interviews, concert footage and behind-the-scenes mayhem....Western's library and K'zoo public library are taking a bunch off my hands. Can you believe it? There is a history prof at WMU who is building some kind of pop culture archives focusing on local art and music..." Is this a joke? I was gonna put together a Doxie Facebook page and realized that there's like 5 photos of us playing live (that I own) and a poor quality video of a show at Soda (we were never very good archivists). I figured I'd send anyone looking for the songs to this site. After reviewing what I had to work with, it was looking like my vanity page would end up pretty thin, so I kinda didn't put up a Doxie FB page. So now I see this talk of interviews and concert footage - I'm excited, I didn't know such things existed. Maybe I'll get to create my page after all and garner all the respect that I so richly deserve...Um Jim, we need to discuss royalties. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jim Cherry on 01-29-09 about all Muchas gracias, my friend. I'm pressing up 100. Western's library and K'zoo public library are taking a bunch off my hands. Can you believe it? There is a history prof at WMU who is building some kind of pop culture archives focusing on local art and music. Ch*fe put him in touch with me. His name is Roger Hyland, and he's also working with K*rl from the Sinatras who is helping put together a similar collection at the public library. I think they will be contacting you real soon. They want everything from flyers to old VHS stuff to t-shirts. As for the "lost album," Halsey doesn't want it to be a CD-R. He wants to do a real sweet release with liner notes and old photos. I told him he should do picture disc. Ha ha. In response to: Jeff Master on 01-29-09 for all Jim, let us know if you need any ground support or air coverage on 'temple. it is yours to use. Big announcements, fancy banners, launch party. I imagine it would be good to release the unreleased album too with the package. By "first 50 copies" don't you mean "all the copies"? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff Master on 01-29-09 about all Jim, let us know if you need any ground support or air coverage on 'temple. it is yours to use. Big announcements, fancy banners, launch party. I imagine it would be good to release the unreleased album too with the package. By "first 50 copies" don't you mean "all the copies"? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jim Cherry on 01-29-09 about all Heads up everyone: I'm putting out a Doxie retrospective DVD full of candid interviews, concert footage and behind-the-scenes mayhem. Should be a lot of fun. First 50 copies will come with CD-R of the group's aborted EP collab with InOurselves. This is really intense, kind of like Weezer meets Tool. Reply to this message

Posted by: on 01-28-09 about all No, but he's pretty close... I guess . . . Reply to this message

Posted by: LOL (Villain) on 01-28-09 about all In response to: Jeff on 01-28-09 for all Is your neighbor the heavy-set black lady w hairnet from the Honey Bunches of Oats add? Bitch is loud! --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Animal on 01-28-09 about all Finally remembered the other band on that NYE bill with Push, FAQ, and Johnny With An Eye: Port Wine Lads. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 01-28-09 about all Is your neighbor the heavy-set black lady w hairnet from the Honey Bunches of Oats add? Bitch is loud! Reply to this message

Posted by: Joby on 01-28-09 about all Stealing neighbors WiFi Right Now... Up-Or-Downloading is not an option at the moment. Febrauary 8th I'll return to the intrawebs and all it's glory instead of updating my facebook with slightly better than dial-up speed... Reply to this message

Posted by: Villain on 01-27-09 about all http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=43834 Reply to this message

Posted by: Animal on 01-27-09 about John Henry Villain~! Yeah, now that you refresh my memory I do, in fact, recall something about a broken toe/foot and a stool. That whole gig was madness. I'm not sure why the paper didn't get spread around more...Danny Boy and Opus may have been aware of it and held off, or might have stayed behind and enjoyed...I honestly don't remember any more. Was definitely a good time, though. Unfortunately after I left town in '94 I pretty much lost touch with everyone. Dumb move, really, but I was trying to 'do the right thing.' Probably would have been better off if I'd stayed in town. Then again, I might well be dead by now, and I'd have missed some fairly cool things. Haven't heard anything out of Dan or Opus or Matt in a decade and a half, and nobody seems to know what happened to ol' Davey "Manson" H. after Suiciety broke up and he split. F'n Stoops', man. If I ever get rich I am so buying that building. Even though it's a horrible investment property and needs hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of work to be made anything but an unheated furniture warehouse. Didn't Brad come down and take promo photos of us at one point? Wonder whatever happened to those. Or all those tapes Jimmy Black is probably still sitting on. We must have taped pretty near every time we picked up instruments - seems like something would have survived *somewhere* other than on my one badly-weathered and half-taped over video. As far as "managing" anything or anyone about that band, including myself...it was a fun exercise in futility, but still a futile one lol. Still, it gave me something to do between periods of my own playing (much like my late-90's excursion into the pro wrestling business - I actually got a Thank You on the WWE 2-Disc OMEGA DVD, I'm all famous and shit now), and I don't care what Overjef says I still think you guys were kicking out some of the most energetic, ass-kicking tunes around. "Eternal Dream" and "Freedom" and the "last time I'll ever do this" song that I can never remember the name of...face-ripping covers of Janes and Motorhead and Cheap Trick and even ol' Gordon Lightfoot for the love of pete. Then again I was always more into the straight-ahead "heavy blues-based rock" (™ Matthew "Cap'n Ron (Jeremy)" Bogema) a'la Pearl Jam/Soundgarden, where it seemed like most of the local scene was either more punk/hardcore or more art/prog than what I was personally in to. It's nice to be able to say 'yeah, I can play 64th-note ride cymbal patterns at 320bpm,' but for me it was always about the groove, the heart and soul underneath all the noise. Far as I'm concerned, that's requirement number one - not to say that musicianship is unimportant, but if all you do is play fast with no feeling, you're fuckin' Yngwie Malmsteen, ya know? Which great, guy's got his niche, but I get off harder on the solo break from "Reach Down" by TotD than on Malmsteen's entire career, just because you could tell they were playing from their hearts rather than their brains or their dicks. Didn't either you guys and X's4I's Rob, or X4I with Dave, pull off a cover of "Hunger Strike" at Soda about 8 months before the video was released, or is that just another one of those fuzzy memories again? (I still have no f'n idea what that song's supposed to mean, and I still love it.) Damn good to see you again, man. Drop by my site and add whatever links you've got, tell stories, whatever you wanna do. The soap opera continues to churn ever onward. (PS: *I* resent Matt for not doing more with GB; it was a very solid band with some very cool and accessible tunes. I mean, I'm over it, it was 15 f'n years ago, but we should have been playing out long before the end, IMO.) In response to: Christian Coville on 01-27-09 for John Henry Hey De-shlong (Animal)Nice story about our show in Chi-town... --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Villain on 01-27-09 about all Where do you post video links? Reply to this message

Posted by: Villain on 01-27-09 about all http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvLwMxubI6g Love em. They did Soda many times... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvLwMxubI6g Reply to this message

Posted by: Villain on 01-27-09 about all http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvLwMxubI6g Love em. They did Soda many times... Reply to this message

Posted by: Villain on 01-27-09 about All Best show: Big Blue Couch This huge hairy guy with a diaper on, viking helmet and bib throwing candy, toys and Oh, what's this? It looks like Shrooms! (oh yeah, fun nite for those who were there) Reply to this message

Posted by: Christian Coville on 01-27-09 about John Henry Hey De-shlong (Animal)Nice story about our show in Chi-town... But I was not in the Sky with Lucy, and I seen things differently. (lol)I had a broken toe and was taking codeine for the pain (along w/ getting there too early (drinking).I had to play sitting on a stool...remember that? As far as partaking, no one asked me.Course Four Peace did what ever they wanted, when they wanted to. (Spoiled/Egos) all of us... As far as managing Four Peace,,, Come on, who could possibly manage that F.U.S.S. (lol) and I never resented Matt B. for not doing something more w/ Gypsy Blue...It was, what it was. But I enjoyed jammin with both of you. Gonna post lots of stuff, just finishing the Graphic Design degree.Need to get a hold of Jager he has lots of archive Relliks! Still jammin' Peace Reply to this message

Posted by: Christian Coville (Four Peace) on 01-27-09 about all Sorry for not dressing up to. (Even though we held the show at the Four Peace) Westnedge house. Oh yeah, we were dressed like rockstars... We were so vain. (lol) Overman Rules!!! Reply to this message

Posted by: Villain on 01-27-09 about all Funny thing about loaning out my git-fiddle to Urge Overkill, was that I lent him my back up (Washburn), cuz no one was touching the Les Pool. $1999 (I don't think so) Then low and behold (Pulp Fiction) soundtrack Urge Overkill. Funny! Peace Reply to this message

Posted by: Villain on 01-27-09 about Flyers Dan your taking up too much space... Sound familiar? It's your buddy Villain! I feel like I am at home again... This site and others are great, because to lose the "Magic-Mushroom" days would be a shame. Enter>>>Digital Age!!! Facebook is driving me crazy, other than it lead me here.We have so much Rellik media to post, we should get together Yo' and upload our Shtih! I am just about done w/ the Graphic Design degree so I know we could blow this site up! (LOL0LOL) Gimme a call (peter) and we'll get busy... Oh yeah, Matt called you "peter" I called you "scranial". Just kiddin... NOT (HUHUHUHUHU) Peace an da shot of Jager to you all (although I don't partake... (Sakajaweeah) Reply to this message

Posted by: Worhead/Misnthropy on 01-26-09 about Flyers On the same bill? Someone refresh my memory on how Matt B. went from one to the other? Awesome collection here - I remember Coville having to lend Urge Overkill his guitar because theirs had all been stolen the night before in Windsor or Toronto or some damn thing. Attendance was not spectacular that I recall - this was a couple of years before UO hit with "Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon." And there's ol Sky Juice (true story: I booked them and Four Peace in to Peppers for some strange reason, and they showed up with *no drums*) on a bill with TI, and Selling Heaven/Twitch with their Tongue sticking out. It's so nice to know I didn't hallucinate all this stuff...ZnoWhite was the band of Messers Garnett, Warne, and Fox after their previous gig, I believe, but before that band that eventually became Remnant. Flyer from the Desacrator show would be choice ;-) Would also be cool if anyone has tape/flyers from the big show at the State in August of 07, there were like 10 or 12 bands on the bill including Doug G's band that I can never remember the name of (even though I can remember like 4 others he was in), and I'm pretty sure that Desacrator was on that bill as well. Reply to this message

Posted by: Animal on 01-26-09 about John Henry Rather than eat up all your bandwidth, I'm putting together my long-winded ramblings in a section of my site. I wasn't drum-less, I was just most active before and after 89-93 when things were really cooking. Minor correction on re-read: Karen moved to Chicago. The Actors are up at my site. I'm looking to move back to the 'zoo, hopefully by the end of summer. If anyone wants to write bios/articles for the Kalamazoo Music section of my site, get in touch. Get in touch anyway. I miss people. Other news-articles-plans-links: http://www.lowgenius.net/page/Kalamazoo-Music.aspx which I'm updating EVEN AS WE SPEAK. Thanks for the space. -jh Reply to this message

Posted by: Culture of None (Adam C Paul) on 01-25-09 about Flyers Oh WOW this is great! I remember those old Soda calenders, they were a great help since I was usually planning my Kzoo trips from either Detroit, MI or Greendale, WI. Would've loved to see the Flots N Jets/Prong/TI show. So many other metal greats here, also: Znowhite, Faith or Fear, deadhorse... and that Desacrator flyer alone made my week - just awesome. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 01-24-09 about all ALL of my shirts have booze on them at some point. Yes, it is indeed cool. Reply to this message

Posted by: dan on 01-23-09 about all I still have a TI martini shirt. it's too big so I wear it around the house. We used to wear them to high school and thought we were cool because it had booze on it. no wonder no friends. Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 01-22-09 about all I've got many. Feel the palm twitch, deaths head TI, a rollinghead with a rolling head on it, screwtape and overman of course, old butterfly Selling heaven, girthy black spring. the prize, of course, is the Snorkel shirt with the man helping the little boys pants off. Chuck Bradford could fit into his I bet. Reply to this message

Posted by: on 01-22-09 about all does anyone else in the Temple crowd still have any kzoo band t-shirts? i ask because i'm wearing my Twitch shirt (a rather wacky product (most likely conceived by the Grass Records folk): heather grey shirt with bright red/blue/yellow print. Got it from Grass years ago via mailorder for $7 or so. I believe Brent Oberlin spied it on me at one show & quipped that no kzoo folk could fit into theirs anymore. I've also got a Black Umbrella shirt and the old metronome-eyeball thOught industry t. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 01-22-09 about all Geoff, don't feel lazy, feel inspired by CB. Your audience awaits you. It's nice that someone bought the RollingHead CDs in the aftermarket, but what fool abandoned them in the first place?? Surely someone who had already loaded them into their iPhone Reply to this message

Posted by: Culture Of None (Adam C. Paul) on 01-21-09 about all yesterday I saw both Rollinghead CDs at the Salvation Army here in Livonia, MI. Today, I was surprised to find they were both gone. Good to see kzoo stuff is still selling like hotcakes. Reply to this message

Posted by: Geoffrey on 01-20-09 about Bryers In response to: Geoffrey H. on 01-20-09 for Bryers If CH happens by this post I'd like to ask what software was used in the production of the music part. --- end of previous message --- I mean CB. Reply to this message

Posted by: Geoffrey H. on 01-20-09 about Bryers Cheebus, does this guy ever quit? Makes me feel lazy. The birds thing is suh-weet. Would love to have heard Cuckoo Bird arranged live style at Harvey's, once upon a time. I wanna sing back ups and play guitar. I'm glad you make music Chris. If CH happens by this post I'd like to ask what software was used in the production of the music part. Reply to this message

Posted by: Liz on 01-16-09 about Sleet So amazing to have seen Bryers walking down the street in Hollywood one day...Got to see them play at the Whiskey. Had no idea they were even out there. I just happen to decide to go see a gallery showing of photos taken by Dennis Hopper and saw Chris walking down the street. He said Hey, we have a gig at the Whiskey. Gwen Stefani and Gavin were both there and stood right behind us of course they were there to see some other band they played with but I think she liked 'em. Funny, that reminds me of a twitch gig at the Club Soda where D'Arcy came up and asked me "Which one is Chris Bryers?" I told her, the one with the sweet voice of course! Ok I think I really said, "that one" and pointed at him but you get my point. Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 01-16-09 about all or even Bryers himself. Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 01-16-09 about all Perhaps Joby or Jim Cherry could type one out. In response to: Culture Of None on 01-16-09 for all uh...is there a tracklist (song titles is what i'm looking for) available for 'Birds'? Right now, that "Sun exploded in your heart, feel like a match-stick burning in the dark" song is killing me...need to know the title :P --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Culture Of None on 01-16-09 about all uh...is there a tracklist (song titles is what i'm looking for) available for 'Birds'? Right now, that "Sun exploded in your heart, feel like a match-stick burning in the dark" song is killing me...need to know the title :P Reply to this message

Posted by: E. Milliken on 01-15-09 about Connections Now I know what to do with all my old show flyers. Who knew?! HA!! Reply to this message

Posted by: Culture Of None (Adam C. Paul) on 01-15-09 about Doxie DOXIE was amazing - live, especially. Halsey knew how to wring out soaring and delicate tones, clear and articulate, whilst still strumming a git-fiddle. They were the reason I'd drive out to K-zoo from Detroit, greater than anyone recognized... Reply to this message

Posted by: Culture Of None (Adam C. Paul) on 01-14-09 about all Jeff, I just got hold of 'Birds' when it posted on the Temple; tho I'd already heard easily half the tracks via Bryers' myspace page. What I realized today - driving in the Michigan snow & listening to 'Ku Ku Bird' - is how many VERY memorable melody lines and hooks Chris has been able to conjure: especially with the Sleet stuff, but even back to Owlsa, etc. Mega song-writing talents, I would argue. By the way, I have an original FA-Q record album with a ton of press-kit / photos / reviews / zine stuff in the sleeve. Got it for 25 centimes at an LP shop years back. In response to: Jeff on 01-14-09 for all Culture of none: Did you just get 'birds', or have you had it a while? A nice article that I generally agree with. Is Brent more elusive? Both he and Bryers are up two albums since 9/11 (cutting it close though) We'll put Bremens on the short list, but The high council will have to weigh in on Mom Handy's inclusion. I think I heard that they played at RICs a few times. Geoff Halsey will decide. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 01-14-09 about all Culture of none: Did you just get 'birds', or have you had it a while? A nice article that I generally agree with. Is Brent more elusive? Both he and Bryers are up two albums since 9/11 (cutting it close though) We'll put Bremens on the short list, but The high council will have to weigh in on Mom Handy's inclusion. I think I heard that they played at RICs a few times. Geoff Halsey will decide. Reply to this message

Posted by: Bill on 01-14-09 about all Here are a few bands that I had enjoyed that I did not see make your list..that Should be recognized. Some of the members are still playing and part of other bands mentioned..they not like going to see Screwtape on acid..but it was and is great music and fun times Momhandy The Bremens http://www.myspace.com/thebremens Reply to this message

Posted by: cultureofnone on 01-14-09 about all A few words on Bryers 'Birds' and related matters on the Culture Of None blog. http://www.cultureofnone.blogspot.com/ Reply to this message

Posted by: Gossip Queen (er, the master) on 01-14-09 about Cosmonaut I've heard from a reliable source that there is a plan or intention to finish those recordings. Stay tuned! In response to: cultureofnone on 01-13-09 for Cosmonaut late in the life of the Cosmonaut website, there was a post that some post-Pipebomb Full of Nails demos/recordings were soon to be posted/shared...I think they were just instrumental tracks w/o Brent, tho. Anyone ever get a hold of these? They should be put here on the Temple :) --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: cultureofnone on 01-13-09 about Cosmonaut late in the life of the Cosmonaut website, there was a post that some post-Pipebomb Full of Nails demos/recordings were soon to be posted/shared...I think they were just instrumental tracks w/o Brent, tho. Anyone ever get a hold of these? They should be put here on the Temple :) Reply to this message

Posted by: Animal on 01-13-09 about Desacrator So *that's* what happened to Spider. I remember her blowing me, Jason, and Mike away in..must have been summer of '87 when she showed up to audition for us and whipped out "Diary of a Madman." On keyboards. In time. Hope she's well, wherever she ended up. Reply to this message

Posted by: Animal on 01-13-09 about everything When I first found this place, or maybe when I first found TASMLab even, I promised a story of a gig in chicago and some enriched paper. This is that story. So Four Peace is doing their first gig in Chicago at a place called the "Dance Factory." Was an old utility or manufacturing floor or some crap where the main space was a dance club, but then they had this kind of side-room thing with a rollaway wooden door where they had live bands. The show had been co-booked by a guy named Ralph Wallace in Chicago who ran an outfit called ROMP, that later led to FP trading some gigs back and forth with Wickerman and Deep Blue Dream. This was probably the strangest booking ever. The original bill was FP, something called Peacefrog, and a reggae band called "Dub Dis." We weren't sure if maybe Ralph hadn't bothered even listening to the tape we sent him, but it was a paid gig, and it was Chicago, so you know how that goes. We all load up - the band, Opie (Dan J's drum fish), J. Peake (that huge dude that used to handle all Matt B's gear), me (I was playing some kind of manager/booking agent/general hanger-on for 4P at the time, as I was drumless - an unfortunately recurring theme for me), some females, and this cat who I will call B who used to take promo pix of a lot of the bands in the area (you guys know who I mean, I know you do. Copy shop), and we get in a truckin convoy and head for the Windy City. We get there waaaay early with a UHaul full of gear, and Dave H. breaks out the grill he'd brought along and starts doing his thing (cooking steaks on the back of a UHaul, which a passing cop later made us VERY nervous about as he informed us that this was verboten) while Dan j steals a warning poster about rats that later became a permanent fixture on the sides of 4P's giant speakers. (Truly funny shit: I saw that *exact same poster* next to currently-engaged-in-a-hostile-takeover-of-illinois Rod Blajojevic on the AP news feed a couple of days ago). We do our thing, hang out, eat, smoke, blah de blah, we got nothing else to do but chill and wait for someone to unlock the bar so we can load in. Someone, I don't even remember who, happened to be in possession of a quantity of chemically-enriched paper that night, and DaveH decided that this was going to be his first gig under the active influence of that particular substance. So we're already looking forward to an interesting evening - Dave wasn't exactly the most subtle of people to begin with. Before the paper even got involved, it got interesting as night fell and the place opened... First, this "Peacefrog" outfit. We figured they were probably a Doors-y psychedelic band (amazing deductive skills, we musicians!) They were supposed to be second on the bill with 4P opening and the reggae guys headlining, shows up and it's ONE GUY with a little 10-inch gorilla amp who explained that a) he'd fired his band that day, b) he'd picked up some replacements by soliciting random strangers on the street while carrying said gorilla amp to the gig, and c) he was now billing himself as "The Beatles." No shit. Okay, so now 4P is second on the bill, since nobody is interested in opening for a scruffy high school sophomore with a gorilla amp and the local skid row bum. Yes, he actually went on! With some random homeless guy screaming over the barely-audible screeching and noise of his teeny little amp, which wouldn't have mattered if it was 100 feet tall because the dude basically just stood there for about 40 minutes beating the shit out of his guitar without even pretending to try to actually involve things like tuning, melody, rhythm, tone, or really anything but white noise, atonality, and a lot of feedback. I believe the homeless dude may have been screaming random Kierkegaard or Schopenhauer quotes over all of this. In the original languages. This was not shaping up to be the greatest of all possible touring experiences. As soon as "The Beatles" hit the stage, Dave, B, and I headed out to my little blue 89 LeMans and added the flavor of enriched paper - VERY WELL enriched paper, I might add - to our tongues for dissolution. The rest of the band...had no idea. At all. None. And outside of a bit of herbality and some warmup brew (hence the nervousness of being confronted by Chicago's Finest in regards to Dave's impromptu display of culinary art), they were all stone sober. So Dave has intentionally timed this such that the enrichment will make itself known to his cerebellum right around the time "The Beatles" are packing their crap and getting the hell out of the way (one nice thing: the changeover from 'them' to us was about 3 minutes). About an hour after "The Beatles" have stormed the stage, Four Peace takes over and puts on a very good, solid show of musicality and mashed-potato-and-peanut-butter grungy thickness (I stole that mashed potato line from a reviewer in the GR zine, Music Revue?, in their review of 4P's demo). Dave...is having a transcendent experience, and by this point so are B and I. I've always wondered how B's photos differed from what he THOUGHT he was seeing, but I digress. Dave's doing his thing, the band's doing theirs. By the time the sets done, the enriched among us are definitely seeing happy trails. Chicago being what it is, the bar didn't open til about 11pm, and 4p didn't go on until around 12:30am. They managed to pull a pretty nice chunk of the dance club in over their set - had maybe 350 or 400 folks in a space about half the size of soda by the time they were done, lots of applause and can-i-have-your-autograph and sold a few tapes and fiddled with a bit of the local fauna that tended toward femaleness. They went long, for a 2nd act, maybe 105 minutes or so. So 105 minutes later we loaded out of that place in all of about three minutes (major fast for the huge amount of gear 4P was carrying at the time). Gig's over, everyone wants to go get fooked one way or the other, so we start to do that. Most every stays behind in Chicago to hang with RompRalph, the dude who had set this abomination of a gig up. B has to get back home, and Dave and I were both deep in relationships at the time, so we decide to head back to the 'zoo. Yes, I was driving. No, it wasn't real smart, since all three of us were very much on a long trip at this point, and I don't mean the ride to Chicago. Not my finest moment, but what the hell - everyone knows you're invincible when you're 21. We pile in my little POS LeMans and manage to find the Skyway and head back in the general direction of Mittenland. There's a little of this sort of liquid fermented beverage and a little of that sort of mood elevating herbality and there might have been something refined to keep the sleep away involved as well, I don't even remember for sure anymore. So we're cruising along and BSing back and forth and having a nice permagrin vacation and listening to the board tape at full volume and generally doing what hippie musician types do at 3:30 AM after a gig in the big city. Nothing else on the road. We're on 94, tooling along about 70 or so and I'm not even watching the road as I'm yapping back and forth with Dave in the passenger seat and B in the back seat (hey, man, eye contact is just common courtesy when you're talking to someone, ya know?), havin a good ol' time. I'm lookin at Dave, saying something of little to no importance (but it seemed remarkably profound at the time), and suddenly I see his face go white as a sheet. Now, those of you who remember Dave might guess, correctly, that this was quite the feat, given that what little of his face wasn't covered with that thick beard was of a quite ruddy complexion. His eyes get even bigger than they already were. His mouth drops open so far I thought he was gonna let loose with one of those shrieks only dogs can hear, the ones that sounded like Donald Sutherland in the last frame of "The Body Snatchers" that he used to drop in to their cover of "Mountain Song" and a few other tuns. His jaw starts working up and down, he's stammering. "Ab..ab...abb...um...John. John. JOHN!!" He points out the windshield, at which point I figure what the hell, I'm driving so I may as well look, right? We're on a huuuuge bridge, I think it goes over the Chicago River, on the east side of town heading in to Gary, I'm sure you know the one I mean. It's pitch black outside. There's nothing else on the road but us, anywhere. No streetlights, no signs, no nothing, just the lines on the road, the pavement, the bridge rails, and us. 70 miles an hour and smooth sailing all the way ba... Wait a minute. Why do the lines in the road, the bridge rails, and the PAVEMENT STOP RIGHT IN FRONT OF US? Ooooh shit. I slam on the brakes. We all three shriek like four year old girls with a new puppy. I'm trying to figure out how the hell I missed all the signs that SURELY must have warned us that this bridge was under repair and COMPLETELY GONE HALFWAY ACROSS THE DAMN THING. I close my eyes and feel the car fall out from underneath me as we all plummet over the edge and begin falling to our certain death hundreds of feet below in the shipyards of East Chicago.... ...and then open them and realize that the bridge had been newly-paved, starting at just the right point mid-bridge, and no lines had been painted on it and the reflectors and other traffic accoutrements had not yet been re-installed. This combination, in addition to the lack of street lights and the merrily hallucniatory chemicals making their way through our synapses, conspired to give the impression - to all three of us - that the road simply ended about 50 feet from the point where I'd turned to look at it. After we all changed our pants and wiped ourselves, we had a good laugh and drove back the rest of the way home, and that was the last time I drove under the influence of much of anything. To the best of my knowledge, this is the first time any of the three of us has discussed this event publicly. And that's my little story. Happy new year, Zoolanders! Reply to this message

Posted by: Animal on 01-13-09 about all If anyone's interested in contributing stories, pics, or URLs to past-present-future zooband sites pages info, please drop by http://www.lowgenius.net/page/Kalamazoo-Music-The-Thing-That-Almost-Was.aspx and go from there. Reply to this message

Posted by: Animal on 01-13-09 about Quixote Damn, and I was so looking forward to those children, too. They make excellent burritos. In response to: happy holidaze everyone! on 12-24-08 for Quixote no, i'm not auctioning off abducted children or looking for donations for number 2 pencils... i'm just saying hello and wishing you all a great holiday and new years. ~peace.ham.cheese. -DuG [the freshmaker] --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 01-12-09 about all I believe you can download "speed queen" off of Bryer's MySpace page. I'll ask if we can post it here. Reply to this message

Posted by: cultureofnone on 01-12-09 about all oh, my. is "Speed Queen" not one of the tracks on 'Birds'? We need "Speed Queen" Reply to this message

Posted by: Mandi L. on 01-11-09 about Grant and Roche yeah, that's from me. Reply to this message

Posted by: You all are the bomb on 01-11-09 about Grant and Roche These are the jams. I haven't been excited about a song in a long time...St. Patrick is my new favorite cut. I'm sure all this nostalgia could be clouding my perception...but I doubt it. Very inspiring. xo Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 01-09-09 about all Become a facebook fan of the temple: (not sure link will work) http://www.facebook.com/pages/LeonsTemplecom/42531844366 Reply to this message

Posted by: Overjef on 01-08-09 about overman Yea, we got em. No jerkin' it, though: Honestly, though, Funny? Jokes over. In response to: headpowers on 01-07-09 for overman what's more funny than purple dave in a teddy? overwomen playing at the 4 peace house! who has pictures from this hilarious show with overman performing in dresses? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: headpowers on 01-07-09 about overman what's more funny than purple dave in a teddy? overwomen playing at the 4 peace house! who has pictures from this hilarious show with overman performing in dresses? Reply to this message

Posted by: Brad Raffenaud - Bass Player - Holy Terror on 01-05-09 about contribute info http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=42386848471 Reply to this message

Posted by: Starveys On The Maul on 01-04-09 about First to the Fence Adam and Jason also played in Headsocket and Novacaine, respectively... In response to: Uncle Ed's Oil Shoppe on 01-04-09 for First to the Fence The Gerdser will never die In response to: jason gerds is still alive? on 01-04-09 for First to the Fence holy fucking hell. did not expect that. *amy from pentwater* dltslt@gmail.com --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Starveys On The Maul on 01-04-09 about First to the Fence Adam and Jason also played in Headsocket and Novacaine, respectively... In response to: Uncle Ed's Oil Shoppe on 01-04-09 for First to the Fence The Gerdser will never die In response to: jason gerds is still alive? on 01-04-09 for First to the Fence holy fucking hell. did not expect that. *amy from pentwater* dltslt@gmail.com --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Uncle Ed's Oil Shoppe on 01-04-09 about First to the Fence The Gerdser will never die In response to: jason gerds is still alive? on 01-04-09 for First to the Fence holy fucking hell. did not expect that. *amy from pentwater* dltslt@gmail.com --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 01-04-09 about all But if you MAKE it to the post office, just think of how your chances increase of producing said golden egg from your sphincter? "Parasites" probably has my favorite lyrics of anything Grant has written. I would recommend transcribing them from the recording. They are easy to make out. Reply to this message

Posted by: jason gerds is still alive? on 01-04-09 about First to the Fence holy fucking hell. did not expect that. *amy from pentwater* dltslt@gmail.com Reply to this message

Posted by: Craig Daitch on 01-04-09 about Dead River Drag Could someone please email me the lyrics to Parasites please? craig.daitch@gmail.com Gracias, Craig Reply to this message

Posted by: Joby on 01-03-09 about all Yes and "Colin" I'm probly just gonna drive the calenders to your house as me going to the post office is about as likely as me shitting out a golden egg... Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 01-03-09 about all Do we have Colin's calendars too? In response to: Joby on 01-03-09 for all Sure Jeff --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Joby on 01-03-09 about all Sure Jeff Reply to this message

Posted by: cultureofnone on 01-02-09 about all i believe i have a track by TONGUE on cd-r, i do believe it came from a way early-era kzoo/battlecreek/gr comp of bands, was released in a slimcase and the art insert was black with each band's logo and song title in white text. i've long since parted w/ that historic item, but burnt the cooler songs on my own disc. Reply to this message

Posted by: shade on 12-27-08 about Resin Mattress Sorry Paul, didn't mean for the ST stuff to get posted. It was in the same directory I gave Leon's access to. and yes this is that Marc Shade you met through regusa! who ye be? Marc Reply to this message

Posted by: happy holidaze everyone! on 12-24-08 about Quixote no, i'm not auctioning off abducted children or looking for donations for number 2 pencils... i'm just saying hello and wishing you all a great holiday and new years. ~peace.ham.cheese. -DuG [the freshmaker] Reply to this message

Posted by: happy holidaze everyone! on 12-24-08 about Quixote no, i'm not auctioning off abducted children or looking for donations for number 2 pencils... i'm just saying hello and wishing you all a great holiday and new years. ~peace.ham.cheese. -DuG [the freshmaker] Reply to this message

Posted by: Tony U. on 12-19-08 about Quixote Doug G, here is my semi-encrypted email addy... ;) auminn27 @ netscape. net Mr. Anthony Gentile, for GODS sake ***Lighten up man!*** Love, Tony U. Reply to this message

Posted by: Shawn Rainer on 12-19-08 about Area 51 Live At Club Soda is only in a few hands. There is also a soundboard mix of a show we did at the former Strykers Lounge, which I also have. I was only in the band for the last 8 or so months of it's existance, but it was great fun jamming with Joby and Scott. I can be reached at rainerone@hotmail.com or at myspace.com/shawnrainer Rock on! Reply to this message

Posted by: Mike Rosenbaum on 12-18-08 about Catharsis I was fortunate to be involved with the band from the beginning. I recorded their first two demo songs "Playing In Traffic" and "Children at Play" in the basement of one of the dorms in Valley 3 on my 4 track. Through the early years I was a roadie and let Nick use my guitars and amp. I still have the 12 string Ovation acoustic in the picture above. I remember the day when I heard that Bill lost his arm. It was devastating. It was also one of the most amazing things to see him at their first practice after the accident. After only a month he adapted his playing style so he could play most of the songs. It was like he never had an accident. They were way ahead of their time. They were very talented musicians and a great bunch of guys. Reply to this message

Posted by: Pete on 12-16-08 about all Much thanks for the soundboard. It more than made my evening. Reply to this message

Posted by: johnny on 12-15-08 about Quixote saw quixote a bunch of times in the late 90s. once with frodus in 97 or therabouts........once with tristeza and american heritage at soda, multiple michiganfests and a few other times i barely remember. anyways, great great stuff, just too bad more people dident get clued in............ Reply to this message

Posted by: JeffB on 12-09-08 about The Sinatras Sesame St Girl Next Door Reply to this message

Posted by: GH on 12-08-08 about all about the faq video...what punky rockety band in 1989 took a train anywhere? what is this, the 'festival express'? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jason-kzoo on 12-06-08 about Rollinghead Are there any copies of live Rollinghead covers such as; "Do it in the Road" and "Heros"? That would make this collection complete. Man, I miss the good old days. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jason-kzoo on 12-06-08 about Rollinghead Are there any copies of live Rollinghead covers such as; "Do it in the Road" and "Heros"? That would make this collection complete. Man, I miss the good old days. Reply to this message

Posted by: Skip Lapekas on 12-06-08 about GHG I LOVE GHG Dutch Mafia... F"N brilliant!!! any other GHG material out there? I'll be more than happy to transfer/digitize anything at my studio. Same w/ Thought Industry material... Thanks for leonstemple, what a great source for us K-zoo music diehards. I can be reached by > email slapekas at yahoo dOt com if you want transfer digitize any of this stuff! Thnx. Reply to this message

Posted by: albuquerqueviakalamazoo on 12-03-08 about Resin Mattress would this marc shade be the same 1 from california that i met thru chris ragusa? In response to: kiry on 11-17-08 for Resin Mattress first and foremost... the sonic tribe stuff?.... marc shade side project with josh remy.... --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: albuquerque-via-kalamazoo on 12-03-08 about Top 10 OMG I havent heard those guys in YEARS! Anyone who doesnt get to their shows is really missing out! In response to: Jeff for the top 10 shows on 07-08-08 for Top 10 Not many New Duncan Imperial fans apparently. Wasn't everybody at the Hole/Rocket from the Crypt holloween show? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Kevin S on 12-01-08 about Lollygore and I have two tracks recorded at Western's studio back in 95 that I'll convert to MP3 and send/post to the site. In response to: doug on 11-28-08 for Lollygore and wish there were more Marie Laveau songs. There were many songs I got to know well living upstairs. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Dan-o on 11-30-08 about Spite Knock, knock, knock. "Who Is It?" "It's me Dave" "Dave's not here" "No, It's me...Dave" "Dave's not here, man." Oh yeah, Willie didn't sing that song...Dave did. Reply to this message

Posted by: doug on 11-28-08 about Lollygore and wish there were more Marie Laveau songs. There were many songs I got to know well living upstairs. Reply to this message

Posted by: Colin H on 11-25-08 about all Could this be the same Brian Jackson that worked at soda so many long years ago? Or have I been hitting the bong too hard? In response to: brian jackson on 11-25-08 for all theres little info here about my old roomates band Ordination of Aaron, they were soundshapers for the EMO sound back in the early 90's, when it was good not this crap now... worthy of being mentioned as they played all over our great city as well as releasing 7"s, comp songs and a full length vinyl LP which were hard marks to reach unless you did them yourselves and stacked them in your closet. anyway, them and Constatine Sankathi were doing some pretty cool sincere rockin back then and if your from k-zoo you all should know. thanks for the site! brian (aka: action) jackson --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: brian jackson on 11-25-08 about all theres little info here about my old roomates band Ordination of Aaron, they were soundshapers for the EMO sound back in the early 90's, when it was good not this crap now... worthy of being mentioned as they played all over our great city as well as releasing 7"s, comp songs and a full length vinyl LP which were hard marks to reach unless you did them yourselves and stacked them in your closet. anyway, them and Constatine Sankathi were doing some pretty cool sincere rockin back then and if your from k-zoo you all should know. thanks for the site! brian (aka: action) jackson Reply to this message

Posted by: a.k.a. "GARP-O" on 11-25-08 about Fletcher Hi Todd - Please say hello to your cute, love-able sister, Lisa, for me: we worked together at the Alzheimer's home, on 11th Street. In response to: Todd Carter on 03-19-08 for Fletcher My best work, hands down. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: a.k.a. "GARP-O" on 11-25-08 about Fletcher ...But dearest Trish, nothing could beat the government-issued peanut butter, that I tried to get those fine young Fletcher lads hooked onto, at the 412 estate. In response to: Tricia Chappell on 05-09-08 for Fletcher I used to make snacks for the Fletcher boys when they would practice in the Douglas St. house basement. I would make like ramen noodles on toast, potatoes w/ carl budding corn beef sandwich slices, sandwich cookies dipped in jello, that sort of fare. It really fueled the boys on & I feel somewhat responsible for their success. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: a.k.a. "GARP-O" on 11-25-08 about Fletcher Greetings Paul B. - Yeah, it was great living in the 412 Douglas house, listening to you guys practicing in the basement, and studying for my psychology exams... In response to: Paul B on 03-11-08 for Fletcher One time after we played @ Harvey’s with this NYC band called Saturn 9 ended up staying at my place. Paul W asked me if I could drive him to a friends house because he had to drop off some money. Me and Saturn 9 sat in the Fletcher van foran hour (3:30 am-ish) waiting for Paul to come back so we could all go to sleep. I was giddy from just playing a tremendous rock show and kept our visiting friends distracted with early AM wit and charm. Paul came back to van in a daze. I was so fucking green. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Tom on 11-20-08 about Love Offering Poacher you crazy ass sum bitch.....you still got my old motorcycle? Tom Reply to this message

Posted by: DuG g. on 11-18-08 about Quixote ms. coffinger used to have a crush on me before she got boobs [like 8th grade], so i had to pass. who knew she'd turn into a hottie? but then she got v.d. from mr pillars. so ewww... Reply to this message

Posted by: DuG g. on 11-18-08 about Quixote Tony, gimmee an email and i'll catch up with you. this is too public a place for lifey stuff. Reply to this message

Posted by: kiry on 11-17-08 about Resin Mattress amago?...wtf is that? Reply to this message

Posted by: kiry on 11-17-08 about Resin Mattress first and foremost... the sonic tribe stuff?.... marc shade side project with josh remy.... Reply to this message

Posted by: anthony gentile on 11-16-08 about everything does anybody have the video of the first Purple Dave show at Harvey's on the Mall? it was the one with Purple Dave (of course), Paul Wartella, Jim Cherry, Chris Laycock and myself? with special appearance by Chafe? i need to see how i looked wearing Erin's lingerie. i am pretty sure i can fill the breast area up with my man boobs now... just curious. Reply to this message

Posted by: anthony gentile on 11-16-08 about Quixote hey gang, paul didn't pass away until 2005. i don't know where you all are getting your info, but if you don't know when somebody died, you might not want to be putting the info out there. don't mean to be harsh, but what the fuck? we're not talking about when somebody put a record out or when they got a new nirvana t-shirt. i am still in contact with his mother who is doing well. some of you might be interested to KNOW (not guess) that Paul was doing VERYwell before he died. in fact, he was actually volunteering at a rehab facility... and they dedicated a LIBRARY to him... the Paul J Wartella Library. believe it or not... that is TRUTH. i was there the day it was dedicated to him. it was a BEAUTIFUL day. we all have stories of partying with Paul or watching him throw up... but i think you all would be surprised (as i was) to see the MANY MANY people whom he touched in a truly special and loving way. i was blown away as nearly 100 people stood up to talk about how much he had helped them with their own recovery. again, i don't mean to be an asshole (i can't help it)... but it was 2005. anthony gentile Reply to this message

Posted by: Kalling on 11-16-08 about Resin Mattress Sweet man!!! got them in my tunes... thanks! Reply to this message

Posted by: Kathryn on 11-16-08 about all the only twitters actually worth reading... https://twitter.com/fireland Reply to this message

Posted by: RTA on 11-16-08 about King Tammy I actually enjoy digitizing things. I have already digitized a bunch of King Tammy things including the aforementioned Halloween show (which I recorded and sang "When Doves Cry"). I may even have Zelda. I definitely have Bad Caramel from their pre-hard rock days. I'm not sure if the guys want this stuff available or not, so I'll get back to you about uploading it. Long live King Tammy! Even though technically they don't actually exist anymore. :( Another great side project you should all track down is Basement Parade which features both Darrin Doyle and Steve Davison. The yer-a-dope shorts are on youtube (including a King Tammy clip of Shitfingerstink) courtesy of Chris Simons. Darrin Doyle's novel is due in bookstores next year. Peace, RTA Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 11-13-08 about Grant and Roche I didn't think they were that hard to discern from listening to the track, and besides "cars are just bars when you're behind the wheel", I suspect the rest are gibberish written quickly. Still, if anyone wants to transpose I will post. In response to: ben wessell on 11-13-08 for Grant and Roche still looking for some lyrics to stars if anybody has them --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: ben wessell on 11-13-08 about Grant and Roche still looking for some lyrics to stars if anybody has them Reply to this message

Posted by: buG on 11-12-08 about GHG this is a great CD. Wish there were other GHG discs as well! Reply to this message

Posted by: Tony U. on 11-11-08 about Quixote Chattanooga huh? Thats cool. I've been there several times playing or seeing shows. I'm currently in the land of sun and geriatrics - florida. Moved from Mich to Ill to Az to Germany to florida. Got married and now have a baby daughter. I however still think that Michigan is the epicenter of the universe but my wife likes warm climates better so i'll have be down here until it sinks into the Atlantic and Michigan becomes the new south. good to see that you still keeping on. The Florida music environment is dreadful. ciao t.u. PS - Remember the Coffinger's down the street from you in kazoo? Christine was super hot. In response to: DuG the freshmaker on 09-29-08 for Quixote Tony, i'm living in Chattanooga, Michigan is too cold for me. Life is great down here, i feel it's necessary to let everyone know that they need to escape that awful state before they're buried in it. ~peace. In response to: Tony U. on 09-26-08 for Quixote Hey Doug! Thanks a bunch. It's been a really long time. Are you still in Michigan? In response to: Douglas Garnett on 08-06-08 for Quixote Hey Tony, awesome job man! i'm really diggin' your songs. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Joby on 11-09-08 about all Yeah colin I've been done scanning them forever please email me your address again (I lost it) oceansofregret(at)yahoo.com I'll ship them back promptly In response to: Colin H on 11-06-08 for all Any word from Joby on those soda calenders I sent him? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Colin H on 11-06-08 about all Any word from Joby on those soda calenders I sent him? Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 10-28-08 about King Tammy It would be a fine addition. Who wants to digitize it for us? I found moving stuff from tape to digital is a pain. In fact, just PLAYING an old tape can be challenging. I have to try to hitchhike with somebody whose got a 1999 Malibu and am like "do you have a tape deck in there?" Reply to this message

Posted by: brennan on 10-27-08 about King Tammy Hey, who has Criminal Like Cheeseburgers Too? Maybe even Steal Wheels? I need my Zelda With The Crazy Eyes. Reply to this message

Posted by: Adam (cultureofnone.blogspot.com) on 10-25-08 about all Listening to the Dead River Drag CD right now, which I do only a couple times a year to preserve its power and importance. Really fantastic middle Michigan sounds. Also eyebrows are raised in response to the 7 Seconds flyer here; one top of all of it, MIND OVER 4?!! I've been a huge fan of that band since '88 or so, have their entire discography, etc. Reminds me also that I need to share my FAQ press kit stuff (photos, reviews, bio) soon...either here or thru www.cultureofnone.blogspot.com, where I recently nodded to the greatness of Twitch after much Thought Industry adoration. So, was it Kevin or Brent who played bass in Dead River Drag? or both? Reply to this message

Posted by: Audio Geek From MT on 10-24-08 about Rollinghead Holy Crapola, To the genuine angles that run this site...thanks. I grew up listening to Daddyhorse every damn day while I drove my busted ass Subaru to both high school and WMU in the early 90s. I've searched high and low for a copy of this album (in CO and MT to ill effect) and here it finally is, in all its raging glory. Aw man, I remember chugging Bell's beer with blue label Smirnoff chasers down near Bronson Park before hearing these guys at Barking Tuna. Shit...what a fugging place that Kalamazoo. What a place. Thank baby Jeebus for Rollinghead. Thank baby Jeebus for Daddyhorse! Peace and chicken grease. P.S. Also miss the skate shop when it was in the alley. P.P.S. Peace out to Flipside (RIP, I think) and Music Express (before the got into homebrewing). Reply to this message

Posted by: Kathy on 10-24-08 about Memories of Tomorrow OMG, Road-I and Todd C. what have you been up to? I miss Kalamazoo. Reply to this message

Posted by: K on 10-20-08 about screwtape SO happy to see this again! Reply to this message

Posted by: tom on 10-16-08 about Rollinghead I stumbled across this site a couple of weeks ago....wow! Kinda makes my heart ache a little..just the reminder of the first time I heard that Richenbacher 12 string sound when Andy and Dave played what would become " Crossing Novembers Winds"...in Tommy Fullers basement where we would practice...Does anyone have any recordings of the Confirmation? We did one session at ALBO in G.R. but I only have a compilation recording...does anyone know where Andy Bennet is? How can I contact Dave Grant. Thanks for any help. Tom Griffioen In response to: Rod MacQuarrie on 05-12-08 for Rollinghead Man, this takes me way back... I met Dean Van Dyke at Smith Burnham Hall on the WMU campus in 1986. He had just dyed his hair black and it hung down in front nearly down to his chin. What a great guy. Dean was a huge Church fan and he introduced me to their back catalog. He also taught me many of the chords to Church songs and I've been a Church fan ever since. Over the years we stayed in touch and actually lived right behind him. Dave was dating some girl and I was dating her sister. I'd go to parties at his place from time to time and watched as Dave and Dean slowly morphed into something a bit more aggressive. They were really influenced by the Led Zeppelin direction the Cult were heading in. I recall Dean mentioning he was in a band called the Jet Boys before Murder of Crows back in Muskegon, but Dave Grant wasn't in that band. I still have a Murder of Crows sticker (unused). At one point I sang a cover version of Unguarded Moment during one of the parties Dean and Dave put on. I think the band was Memories of Tomorrow. What a great time that was! As for Dave Grant, I first met him at a Confirmation concert. What an awesome band! I used to have a cassette of their one and only album but it's long gone now. Dave was really influenced by Cactus World News and the Waterboys as I recall, and in the late 80's he was digging Runrig's first album. After the Confirmation broke up, I bought Dave Grant's Rickenbacker 12-string and Jazz Chorus amp that he used in the Confirmation. Ended up selling them around 1991. Later on I remember Dave asking if I still had it. Around that time he was getting a divorce and had started Rolling Head. Around Rolling Head broke up I ran into Dave Van Dyke. Apparently he was taking courses to become a Dental Hygienist or something. I haven't seen or heard from any of them since. Anyone have contact info? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: tom from the early days (....they thought we were the Eagles - we were that good) on 10-10-08 about Grant and Roche hmmmm....just membering Dave and Andy and I screwin around...now he's ( Dave ) doing some serious shit. Me - I'm just worrying about paying for Drew's college...Take care. Tom Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 10-10-08 about First to the Fence Oh, I may have another song that we somewhat kind of a little bit had a tad close to finished.... Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 10-10-08 about First to the Fence In response to: Trey on 08-21-08 for First to the Fence This is awesome music. Are they still around? Is there anything else released by them? --- end of previous message --- I wish. I'd love to play with these clowns again. Reply to this message

Posted by: Junit1 on 09-30-08 about So This is Outerspace Arghh. I screwed up and missed a track when I broke up the original recording into individual mp3s...I will try to fix this sometime this week. Sorry about that. In response to: J-Unit 1 on 09-27-08 for So This is Outerspace Here is a link to a zip of So This Is Outerspace's demo (called, I believe "A Thousand Zippers" ?). Included in the zip: Individual Mp3s of the tracks (song names tagged when known) An uncut transfer of the demo tape...that apparently goes off into non STIOS stuff that just happened to be on the tape Beth provided me with. Enjoy! http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ufgfcmyxz4o --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: rock is not dead on 09-30-08 about all SXX 4 STROKE KINGS OF THE FOREST MR. DENTON ON DOOMSDAY MISCONCEIVED RED HOT HEAD RADIAL ATROPHY live at the PLACE NEXT DOOR 924 W Hanover St | Marshall, MI this SATURDAY, OCT. 4 $5 - All ages till 9pm, then 21 and up. Reply to this message

Posted by: DuG the freshmaker on 09-29-08 about Quixote Tony, i'm living in Chattanooga, Michigan is too cold for me. Life is great down here, i feel it's necessary to let everyone know that they need to escape that awful state before they're buried in it. ~peace. In response to: Tony U. on 09-26-08 for Quixote Hey Doug! Thanks a bunch. It's been a really long time. Are you still in Michigan? In response to: Douglas Garnett on 08-06-08 for Quixote Hey Tony, awesome job man! i'm really diggin' your songs. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Elvis Karate on 09-28-08 about Grant and Roche Dave Grant is THE SHIT!!!!! I also hear he sneaks into Broadside to listen to Mike's recordings of Joe Wang and the Test Pilots. Reply to this message

Posted by: J-Unit 1 on 09-27-08 about So This is Outerspace Here is a link to a zip of So This Is Outerspace's demo (called, I believe "A Thousand Zippers" ?). Included in the zip: Individual Mp3s of the tracks (song names tagged when known) An uncut transfer of the demo tape...that apparently goes off into non STIOS stuff that just happened to be on the tape Beth provided me with. Enjoy! http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ufgfcmyxz4o Reply to this message

Posted by: Tony U. on 09-26-08 about Quixote Hey Doug! Thanks a bunch. It's been a really long time. Are you still in Michigan? In response to: Douglas Garnett on 08-06-08 for Quixote Hey Tony, awesome job man! i'm really diggin' your songs. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: ben wessell on 09-25-08 about Berwer just read the track listing on the new metallica album, and wouldn't ya know it, there actually is a song called the unforgiven part 3, i think they might owe you some of that fat ass royalty money, hmmmm.... Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 09-19-08 about Rollinghead THanks for stopping by. I do beleive all the Rollinghead is already posted. Reply to this message

Posted by: Mike Pawlowski on 09-18-08 about Rollinghead Ah man still love to type "Rollinghead" in search engines. To see this little bit is great. Grew up in Kzoo and spent my entire teens stuck in the State seeing so many great acts. Worked at Bimbo's and spent almost an underaged lifetime at the Soda drinking Bell's Amber watching shows like Rollinghead, DRD, Killswitch (is Clements still alive?), Twitch, Mustard Plug, Thought Industry, even The Verve Pipe (even way back when they were Johnny with an Eye). Well anyways good to see people are still interested. I have every Rollinghead album here in Austin, TX with me. I should figure out how to upload all of them for others. Went to see Frank Black do a small show here in the ATX with a Rollinghead Tee on, he actually mentioned to me that they were from Kzoo. Missing Piranha Alley and the Mall....... Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 09-18-08 about all Has anyone ever read any lyrics by the Cars? I can't beleive they used to let 12 year olds lipsynch to Cars records with that trite shit. In response to: on 09-18-08 for all I believe that was Greg Hawkes. However, I will confess to taking inspiration for my 1981 Prom haircut from Mr. Hawkes... In response to: jz on 09-17-08 for all hey, Greg Fowkes, did'nt you play keyboards for the cars? Or was that Fawkes? --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: on 09-18-08 about all I believe that was Greg Hawkes. However, I will confess to taking inspiration for my 1981 Prom haircut from Mr. Hawkes... In response to: jz on 09-17-08 for all hey, Greg Fowkes, did'nt you play keyboards for the cars? Or was that Fawkes? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: jz on 09-17-08 about all hey, Greg Fowkes, did'nt you play keyboards for the cars? Or was that Fawkes? Reply to this message

Posted by: Cherilous on 09-17-08 about all Still waiting for the EVENTUAL re-opening of kraftbrau. It will be nice to have a venue that is based on live music, instead of having it as an afterthought. It should be bigger and better than the old 'brau, with a much smoother parking lot! Also, there are high hopes for a liquor license as well. That means more chicks will come to the shows if they have something to drink besides (good) beer and soda. No more pounding bottles of boons farm and blue maui in the parking lot! (yeah, right!) Hopefully the stage will be a foot or two higher than the old one, so the short people can see without jumping up and down all night. After being closed for nearly a year, I think folks are ready for a club with a real rock n roll stage. Not just a corner of the room with a rented peavey P.A............ Reply to this message

Posted by: JH on 09-16-08 about all Long time no post. Yeah, Turkish and Iranian hackers picked MY site, of all places, to plow their field. My hosts' fault - they left a door open. Rather silly, considering my politics lean quite far left and these guys were apparently pitching a fit about the same things *I* have been pitching a fit about...go figure. If anyone's innersted I've got a big ol' redesign going on right now that includes movement to a much more social and new-webby engine. I still hope to make it back to the crumbling streets and working-class cynicism of the 'zoo one day soon. NC sucks. Never, ever consider moving here. And I haven't forgotten I owe y'all a paper story... Reply to this message

Posted by: the kap'n on 09-15-08 about everything Right on - those UFO records spin some of the best rock and roll ever to come out of Kalamazoo. The UFO shows = good times. In response to: Ron Sinatra on 09-15-08 for everything Just wanted to chime in and suggest everyone check out UFODICTATOR.COM --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Ron Sinatra on 09-15-08 about everything Just wanted to chime in and suggest everyone check out UFODICTATOR.COM I think it's been mentioned here before, but I think it deserves more recognition, maybe even a sub-section all it's own. It's a great Kalamazoo based label that puts out records by amazing (mostly Kalamazoo area) rock/punk rock/weirdo bands. The label's head honcho hosts WIDR's "Down In Flames" of Friday nights, and often gives many of us AARP rockers airplay and "props." A lot of these musicians' faces would be familiar to you, as they were the ones standing outside the Munchie Mart asking you to buy booze for them back when you thought that it was YOUR band that was gonna make this town the next (Athens/Seattle/Austin/Etc.) These were the cats that paid $3.00 at the door, got big X's markered onto their hands, then saw us rocking out and thought to themselves: "Hell, if THOSE ugly no-talent fuggers can do it…so can we!" By the way, that's exactly what I said to myself when my kindergarten class went on a field trip, and I saw Violent Apathy playing a reunion show at the Deer Forest Amphitheater. Anyway, not just the faces would be familiar, but you'd know some of the musicians as well. Joel Wick, for example, sings for Mesa, and one (or more, maybe?) member of The Spits is on the Black Orphan single. (The Mesa single, by the way, is maybe my fave of all the UFO records. It rocks like you want it to rock. Like BOC, or KISS ALIVE II) A lot of the other players are your old roommate's little brothers or little sisters. I even know of one UFO recording artist who's FATHER played in a band that's listed in the "Barking Tunas" section of this site! (Some of your own offspring might be in that band too, for all you remember about that night at "the couch house") Another UFO band, The Menthols, recently played at the SXSW festival, and has been creating a buzz and raising hell on the east coast for the past few weeks. This weekend, The UFO Dicks are hosting UFO DICTATOR 4, an annual bash celebrating, well, themselves I guess. It's a 2 day event, with all the UFO bands playing Friday night. On Saturday, local legends SNORKEL play their first show in over a decade, and 70's punk rock icons The Penetrators (Look 'em up) are gonna blow the roof off the place (and then they're gonna get your old girlfriends pregnant!) So check 'em out. Listen to Down In Flames on your innernets machines, and for the love of god, don't add that Menthols single to your list of "I wish I'd picked up that original/locally produced (Latin Dogs, Violent Apathy, Eminem, Kid Rock, Etc.) record before it got so expensive." Buy that fucker now while it's still just $4.00! Seriously! And now, back to Bruce Springsteen's "Glory Days," already in progress... Reply to this message

Posted by: POACH on 09-11-08 about Love Offering Road-I's brother Dan-O took over Bass slinging duties, as well as recording and engineering of the Love Offering CD, Face Down. Seconding Rob's sentiments, Bad Ronald was the most amazing drummer I've ever had the opportunity to play with. Road-I and I tended to write in some awkward time signatures, and Ron never missed a beat. Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 09-08-08 about all Aaron Jerome - Go ahead and send music in mp3 format. (my email to you bounced. I'm likely black-listed) Reply to this message

Posted by: on 09-02-08 about Fletcher thanks Rich. Maybe i'll get around to putting together Checker Records info for here and i'll send in the uno comp, inourselves/jihad and the never released Deconstruction LP. In response to: rich on 08-27-08 for Fletcher That's the song I speak of, Paul... The one from the UNO comp.. I somehow recall it being about specific people but... Yeah. Good song. In response to: tony party on 08-27-08 for Fletcher i don't remember anything hitting bill. in fact bill was our very first drummer for a couple hours or so but O A was demanding too much time from him . there is a song on the UNO comp that hits back at some of the rhetoric that was plopping about in those days. Reply to this message

Posted by: rich on 08-27-08 about Fletcher That's the song I speak of, Paul... The one from the UNO comp.. I somehow recall it being about specific people but... Yeah. Good song. In response to: tony party on 08-27-08 for Fletcher i don't remember anything hitting bill. in fact bill was our very first drummer for a couple hours or so but O A was demanding too much time from him . there is a song on the UNO comp that hits back at some of the rhetoric that was plopping about in those days. In response to: rich on 08-25-08 for Fletcher Why wasn't the song you wrote about Bill Sprague and Rob Hicks on here? Best song you guys had, methinks. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: tony party on 08-27-08 about Fletcher i don't remember anything hitting bill. in fact bill was our very first drummer for a couple hours or so but O A was demanding too much time from him . there is a song on the UNO comp that hits back at some of the rhetoric that was plopping about in those days. In response to: rich on 08-25-08 for Fletcher Why wasn't the song you wrote about Bill Sprague and Rob Hicks on here? Best song you guys had, methinks. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: tony party on 08-26-08 about FAQ LOCKHEED ELECTRA had Ron (FAQ) Ryan & Chuck (Vine) and Alan (deconstruction) and only put out 2 songs on a failed LP comp of K-zoo bands that myself and Todd Carter put out in 95-ish. i still have around 50-100 of these things @ my mums house...anyone here good @ ebay? In response to: Master on 08-26-08 for FAQ Perhaps it was just a RUMOR that FAQ drummer Ron Muniz was playing with the Vine guys in a band called JACK RED CLOUD. Perhaps this band never materialized, and if so, would it count if they just practiced and had a band name? In response to: on 08-26-08 for FAQ You are correct Sir. No one from FAQ was in Vine.... In response to: rich on 08-25-08 for FAQ I don't recall anyone from FAQ in Vine? --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff Farrell on 08-26-08 about Quixote What happened with the 11th track from the remaster? Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 08-26-08 about FAQ Perhaps it was just a RUMOR that FAQ drummer Ron Muniz was playing with the Vine guys in a band called JACK RED CLOUD. Perhaps this band never materialized, and if so, would it count if they just practiced and had a band name? In response to: on 08-26-08 for FAQ You are correct Sir. No one from FAQ was in Vine.... In response to: rich on 08-25-08 for FAQ I don't recall anyone from FAQ in Vine? --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: on 08-26-08 about FAQ You are correct Sir. No one from FAQ was in Vine.... In response to: rich on 08-25-08 for FAQ I don't recall anyone from FAQ in Vine? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jef Till for Dustin on 08-26-08 about Thought Industry Please send us stuff, you must have it. Not that it is of any quality, but you can hear my Dustin tribute/homage on the Hudson Debacle's "Hudson Debacle Part I: Drinking with my friends". Moments after I bought my drumset I went out and bought a big, obnoxious, Mods-era ice bell and tried to hit it on the 4 and a half whenever I could. Related but off topic, Joby said that "drinking with my friends" was a decent song to listen to at 4 am when you are drinking with your friends. Reply to this message

Posted by: rich on 08-25-08 about Fletcher Why wasn't the song you wrote about Bill Sprague and Rob Hicks on here? Best song you guys had, methinks. Reply to this message

Posted by: rich on 08-25-08 about FAQ I don't recall anyone from FAQ in Vine? Reply to this message

Posted by: carl on 08-25-08 about Thought Industry Oh the super hotness of duct tape nipples. One other thing about the old TI shows was their incorporation of multimedia into their sets prior to anyone else using it(that I can remember.) Of course Tool later stole the idea, and to this day uses the same footage they were using in the mid 90's. Nothing like seeing a dozen 19 inch tv's piled on top of one another playing some sort of psychotic montage of visuals. In response to: Jeff on 07-06-08 for Thought Industry I think you CAN contact Dustin. I believe there is a contact email at IAS site, and I'm sure there isn't too much corporate infrastructure between that address and Dustin's computer. Dustin likes hearing from fans. For TI's second album, he even prepared a book of art and images available to send to fans for just three bucks. You haven't really seen TI live until you've seen nipples covered in electrical tape. In response to: on 07-05-08 for Thought Industry I'm a fan of the band from San Diego (and a lot of others since finding this site), so I can't just contact Dustin Donaldson (although love his new band too). I mean, I'd be willing to try to clean them up, out them on DVD or whatever. I just never got to see them live. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Dustin Donaldson on 08-25-08 about Thought Industry eat shit, poser! pee pee tastes like SUCCESS! bwah ha ha (purpl dave squeal) you have an amazing memory, jeff! i support this site with my vine st heart- dustin In response to: Jeff T on 08-22-08 for Thought Industry Can you ask him what pee-pee tastes like? In response to: Trey on 08-21-08 for Thought Industry Dustin Donaldson is going to answer fan questions on the new Myspace page. Read the most recent blog for details: http://www.myspace.com/thoughtindustry111 --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jared... on 08-23-08 about Grant and Roche I am left out in the cold...wrapped in a soggy puke soaked piece of 4x4 1/8" foam padding to cover my Hypothermic state. I remember playing drums on "STARS"...but I could just be trying to take credit for getting drunk and being in the way? I am currently in Phoenix, AZ listening to Mike Yount record. I found this site...and it is great for the stumble down memory lane. Thanks. Jared - "I never lost a friend I couldn't stand to lose" Bryant Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff T on 08-22-08 about Thought Industry Can you ask him what pee-pee tastes like? In response to: Trey on 08-21-08 for Thought Industry Dustin Donaldson is going to answer fan questions on the new Myspace page. Read the most recent blog for details: http://www.myspace.com/thoughtindustry111 --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff T on 08-22-08 about First to the Fence I love the intro to the first song. They totally crush it. In response to: Trey on 08-21-08 for First to the Fence This is awesome music. Are they still around? Is there anything else released by them? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Trey on 08-21-08 about First to the Fence This is awesome music. Are they still around? Is there anything else released by them? Reply to this message

Posted by: Trey on 08-21-08 about Thought Industry Dustin Donaldson is going to answer fan questions on the new Myspace page. Read the most recent blog for details: http://www.myspace.com/thoughtindustry111 P.S. - The only reason it's just Dustin right now is because he's the only one we can reach. Christopher is unreachable right now... Brent & Paul; where are you? ;) Reply to this message

Posted by: ben wessell on 08-20-08 about Grant and Roche these songs make me want to sit back with a few pbr's and forget about everything. great job guy's...please start a band and play somewhere Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 08-19-08 about Grant and Roche OK, the links actually work to the songs. Thanks to mike for being my testing bitch Reply to this message

Posted by: BlackRabbit on 08-18-08 about Killswitch Jimbo Jones from Killswitch/Burning Tent Revival is missing. Last seen in Homer, MI wearing a hood and speaking in tongues. I you see him, he responds to the name Groovy-Bo, and can be captured using a mix of Milwaukee's Best and Cascarelli's Pizza. He loves being tickled on the neck, but is prone to biting. Reply to this message

Posted by: dan on 08-18-08 about Grant and Roche Mike is the best guitar player in the world. Dave is a timeless wonder. I'm sure we've already said this but it bears repeating given the new evidence. Reply to this message

Posted by: Steffen on 08-18-08 about Cosmonaut well, as i wrote: if i had the money (which means so much money, it wouldnt make any difference to me) i'd do it. since im a poor fucker: no chance. and pressing single vinyl records is waaaaaay too nerdy and too expensive as well. no record is worth over 100 bucks. ;-) In response to: Jef on 08-18-08 for Cosmonaut For $109, you can a have a single vinyl record pressed.customrecords.com that would be certainly cheaper than starting a label and selling that one copy to yourself --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jef on 08-18-08 about Cosmonaut For $109, you can a have a single vinyl record pressed.customrecords.com that would be certainly cheaper than starting a label and selling that one copy to yourself Reply to this message

Posted by: Steffen on 08-17-08 about Cosmonaut man, what can i say about this album? this is like one of the best rock albums released in the last couple of years, no doubt about it. i would like to avoid the usual jibberish about why this album is so great because of this and that reason. i just wanna show the band my full appreciation, respect and, most important, my enthusiasm for this piece of gold they created. if i had the money, i really would like to start a label and release this one on vinyl, even though it would be for sure that noone would buy it anyway. at least i could add this one to my collection ;-). thanks for the great music. Reply to this message

Posted by: Dave on 08-15-08 about Rollinghead Hey Rod, I also enjoyed the Crows. I wish I still had a copy of their tape. I loved Steven's voice and Dean's guitar work. Orange on Grey stands out in my memory as a great song. Think, Echo and the Bunnymen meets The Church. How's it goin' Rod. Good to read your comments. In response to: Rod MacQuarrie on 08-15-08 for Rollinghead Going through boxes of junk last weekend and came across an unused Murder of Crows sticker that Dean Van Dyke gave me back in 1987. He also gave me a large crow backdrop at one point, but that disappeared a long time ago... --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Rod MacQuarrie on 08-15-08 about Rollinghead Going through boxes of junk last weekend and came across an unused Murder of Crows sticker that Dean Van Dyke gave me back in 1987. He also gave me a large crow backdrop at one point, but that disappeared a long time ago... Reply to this message

Posted by: on 08-13-08 about Thought Industry new myspace page for old T.I. stuff: http://www.myspace.com/thoughtindustry111/ Reply to this message

Posted by: tibetan snowman on 08-13-08 about all new myspace page for old T.I. stuff: http://www.myspace.com/thoughtindustry111/ Reply to this message

Posted by: tibetan snowman on 08-13-08 about Thought Industry Dustin Donaldson in Los Angeles 8.8.08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjsRjqANpZ4 Reply to this message

Posted by: on 08-13-08 about Rollinghead Hello all...thOught I'd jump in here and mention my series of thOught industry (and hopefully other Kzoo) history on my blog. Go to www.cultureofnone.blogspot.com for the goods. More to come. Tell yr Michigan friends. Reply to this message

Posted by: tibetan snowman on 08-12-08 about all Dustin Donaldson in Los Angeles 8.8.08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjsRjqANpZ4 Reply to this message

Posted by: Guadalakarla on 08-12-08 about all When did The Waterladies reunite, exactly? Gawd, I am so far from any loop... Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff Till on 08-10-08 about Rollinghead Hi Melissa, welcome to the scene (a little late...) Let Todd know that I keep a clean house these days (albeit through some detail-oriented Brazilians). You wouldn't beleive what Joel and Steve are up to these days Reply to this message

Posted by: Melissa Hohauser-Thatcher on 08-10-08 about Rollinghead crazy - never really knew rollinghead but i worked with dave van dyke at "sunshine sub" right after the jim jones days (he and dean were both in) and when he and some other guys (maybe dean) were doing "love pump" - a short lived (i think) side project for some guys. worked with dave for over a year - he lived with "freddy" and a group of people on the street just around the corner from the sub shop. also remember eric (from the other post) from the god bullies (although i don't think his name appears in the "former members" section on the god bullies myspace page) - lived with him and a couple of other people from kalamazoo in chicago. Reply to this message

Posted by: Douglas G on 08-06-08 about Quixote My fond memories of Paul W. outside of Soda talking to him, when out of the blue he just vomited profusely all over the sidewalk, then seemed to think nothing happened. good times... good times. Reply to this message

Posted by: Douglas Garnett on 08-06-08 about Quixote Hey Tony, awesome job man! i'm really diggin' your songs. Reply to this message

Posted by: kiry on 07-31-08 about all and....as an added bonus....i....kiry...will be playing records at ufo dictator fest on saturday night the 20th as well..... Reply to this message

Posted by: Snerkel on 07-30-08 about Snokel everything Kiry says is true, except the bit about SubPop. He got that one backwards - THEY had the balls to turn US down for a seven inch. Pussies. But here: the reunion is on, nailed down, no more rescheduling: September 20th, Louie's Pub (on North). UFO Dictator anniversary show Snorkel Reunion, all four original members. Come see how gracefully we've aged. If the weather holds it'll be outside. If the weather sucks it'll be indoors, and there'll be room for like twelve people. Ergo: if it rains, come early. Remember that tripped out movie you saw when you were a teenager, the one with all the drug references, jump cuts, and weird camera angles? It was so fucking awesome. Then you saw it again as an adult, and, ah man, you sort of wished you hadn't. Not that it was terrible, it's just that that shit was so much cooler before you knew anything about anything. This show will probably be a little bit like that. Hail Satan, Snorkel In response to: KIRY on 03-26-08 for Snokel ahhh....yes....snorkel....i lived with the boys on minor street in the bands infancy.....sam b heard that i was starting resin mattress and was amazingly jealous....he picked my brain for hours about starting a rock band....it just came naturally for resin mattress...so they started snorkel....god were they awful...they practiced every fucking friday...i'd come home from class and be itching to get some serious studying done....but no...snorkel was in the basement hacking away at their "songs"....i would go downstairs and give them pointers on how to structure a song....told them they should really concentrate on perversion as a subject matter....duct tape the drum set back together and fend off robin at the door for them....blaine shaved his crotch at one of the practices....that was pretty cool....apparently they got good at some point...cause they had the balls to turn down sub pop for a 7"... --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Alex on 07-29-08 about Bone China what is the release year of this fine EP by Bone China? any cover art? thanks Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 07-22-08 about How Jeff remembers it Don't forget the TIGHTS, you can't wear boots n' shorts without tights in the dirty kzoo winters. BTW, has anyone decided whether FUNK METAL was just a fad or not? I've been practicing my fone boning and might be looking for some opportunities. Reply to this message

Posted by: Chris F on 07-22-08 about How Jeff remembers it Thanks for the article Jeff. I was a teenager during the aforementioned time and playing guitar, learning how to write music, etc. Almost every band mentioned here, especially Thought Industry, Twitch, Rollinghead, and Screwtape, were huge influences on me, both musically and I suppose with regard to shorts and boots. I'm not totally sure, but maybe also with my long hair/shaved head combo. Both were a big hit with the ladies as I'm sure you can imagine. I'm glad I had these bands to look up to during my formative years. I took it as a great compliment when it got around to me that Herb liked our band because we sounded like good ol' Kalamazoo rock. I remember buying a bunch of TI merch at a Kalapalooza, and Dustin seeing me and my buddy holding all of our Kalamazoo band paraphernalia, and sneering disdainfully, "you guys really get off on this shit, don't ya?" Great times. I still listen to a lot of these bands, and I'm grateful that there are other people who remember them as fondly as I do. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 07-20-08 about all Cars are just bars when you're at the wheel that line is dandy, and I can make it out just fine. That and Colin/Geoff singing "pass out on the steering wheel" in Doxie reminds me of Kzoo. Someone should post a top 10 of DUI's Reply to this message

Posted by: Dave on 07-20-08 about all Ben, I'll post the lyrics for you in a couple days. In response to: Ben Wessell on 07-19-08 for all i don't suppose anyone happens to know the lyrics to "stars" by chopper? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Ben Wessell on 07-19-08 about all i don't suppose anyone happens to know the lyrics to "stars" by chopper? Reply to this message

Posted by: dan on 07-18-08 about TASM Lab nice work Jeff. Love will cloud is super good. If I were a rich man, I would cover my house with your artwork. Do you paint ceilings? I know a few chapels that could use your touch. Reply to this message

Posted by: The Incessant Master on 07-16-08 about all I'm in love with cuckoo bird er-oo er-oo er-oo! Reply to this message

Posted by: the occasional master on 07-15-08 about all Locomotive God. Slow down,, pay attention to me. We're all lost, but loss is not extraordinary. I can not support my lies, all my truths are paralyzed and I don't care. In between these sheets we write and think of ways we could destroy ourselves. I hate your father figure he raped me like a locomotive god! All your children our running for the back door. the strength and the sting of the wound is shining down. test your faith and shimmer like a godsend laughing every time that I repeat myself. I know how you hated it when I sold out. but this is my revenge for giving. Let's go kill the social blister. He's the one that spoiled my sister. It's not her fault at all. You're the reson I won't sleep at night my eyelids stapled open now I hate your father figure he raped me like a locomotive god. Reply to this message

Posted by: Cameron on 07-14-08 about Doxie Still some of my all time favs. I have 13 tracks on my unreleased so it might be off: 1. Captain Action 2. Johnny Needs Hugs 3. Tight White T-Shirt 4. Supra 5. Shoes 6. Gus 7. Eldorado 8. 4-Banger 9. Haiku 10. Old Capo 11. 7/4 12. Loden Blues 13. Biting Problem 14. ? Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 07-13-08 about twitch Allyson Martin may have these handy. I'll post them if somebody sends them in. I really want to finally see the VIDEO to Locomotive God that was funded by label. That would certainly be post-worthy. In response to: eric on 07-12-08 for twitch would it be possible to reprint the lyrics to "Locomotive God"? by Twitch. I can't under stand half of them they are mixed so low but I love the tune --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: eric on 07-12-08 about twitch would it be possible to reprint the lyrics to "Locomotive God"? by Twitch. I can't under stand half of them they are mixed so low but I love the tune Reply to this message

Posted by: bryan charles on 07-12-08 about all Lemme in Masha music exists. i found the tape in my old bedroom closet. i gave to Tony Party to digitalize. Classic T. Miranda. that cat was handsome AND talented. Reply to this message

Posted by: forgot to add... on 07-08-08 about all if you really just want to hear what it is, you can just be lazy and go to www.myspace.com/rabidearsband ~peace. Reply to this message

Posted by: RaBiDeArS on 07-08-08 about all hey, just letting anyone interested at all can download "RaZoRbLaDe LeMoNaDe" by RaBiDeArS free at www.vsthesuct.com/rabidears Reply to this message

Posted by: RaBiDeArS on 07-08-08 about all hey, just letting anyone interested at all can download "RaZoRbLaDe LeMoNaDe" by RaBiDeArS free at www.vsthesuct.com/rabidears Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff for the top 10 shows on 07-08-08 about Top 10 Not many New Duncan Imperial fans apparently. Wasn't everybody at the Hole/Rocket from the Crypt holloween show? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 07-07-08 about Thought Industry My favorite TI tour was 'mods' when Brent played the bass slung super low and he made crazy-face while he tappity-tapped. Between his super-low bass and Dustin's super high cymbals, it seemed as if they were trying to make things a little extra challenging to pull off. I believe Chris was still dragging around the old trashcan to beat on too (that sounds like a euphemism for something, but it's not). After the mods tour, the band members stopped dancing, Dustin's replacement, Jared, had a chest too hairy to tape up, and then the live show was just like watching nerds at band practice. After Paul left, nobody in the band seemed to want to spit on other band members. It finally devolved during the 'short wave' tour where Mike Roche would not only eschew dance, but he would sit in a chair on the stage, smoking and drinking a latte while reading the sports page or doing a cross-word puzzle while playing the guitar. Reply to this message

Posted by: on 07-07-08 about Cosmonaut Great album. Brent reappeared and then disappeared just as fast. Reply to this message

Posted by: on 07-07-08 about Thought Industry I searched the IAS site and found a band contact e-mail, but nothing specific to Dustin. I'll give that a shot, what do I have to lose? I remember reading about the additional art in the Mods album, I read that it never actually materialized though. I would have loved to see them live during any era, but especially during the first two albums. In response to: Jeff on 07-06-08 for Thought Industry I think you CAN contact Dustin. I believe there is a contact email at IAS site, and I'm sure there isn't too much corporate infrastructure between that address and Dustin's computer. Dustin likes hearing from fans. For TI's second album, he even prepared a book of art and images available to send to fans for just three bucks. You haven't really seen TI live until you've seen nipples covered in electrical tape. In response to: on 07-05-08 for Thought Industry I'm a fan of the band from San Diego (and a lot of others since finding this site), so I can't just contact Dustin Donaldson (although love his new band too). I mean, I'd be willing to try to clean them up, out them on DVD or whatever. I just never got to see them live. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 07-06-08 about Thought Industry I think you CAN contact Dustin. I believe there is a contact email at IAS site, and I'm sure there isn't too much corporate infrastructure between that address and Dustin's computer. Dustin likes hearing from fans. For TI's second album, he even prepared a book of art and images available to send to fans for just three bucks. You haven't really seen TI live until you've seen nipples covered in electrical tape. In response to: on 07-05-08 for Thought Industry I'm a fan of the band from San Diego (and a lot of others since finding this site), so I can't just contact Dustin Donaldson (although love his new band too). I mean, I'd be willing to try to clean them up, out them on DVD or whatever. I just never got to see them live. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: on 07-05-08 about Thought Industry I'm a fan of the band from San Diego (and a lot of others since finding this site), so I can't just contact Dustin Donaldson (although love his new band too). I mean, I'd be willing to try to clean them up, out them on DVD or whatever. I just never got to see them live. Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 07-05-08 about all First, find friend with home recording studio, buy him beer, and beg beg beg. If you have a computer with a decent sound card, it MAY have RCA-type jacks you can plug a tape deck into, and you may be able to find some shareware recording software. And then struggle for hours and hours to get it to work. You can dub them to other cassettes and send them to me and I'll encode them for you. Option 1 is the best. In response to: tony party on 07-04-08 for all i have a cassette of 6-8 Le’me in Masha tunes along w/ Fletcher live with Paul Wartella on drums oh and a poop load of Phil A Sheo & the Wet T-shirt contest stuff...now how do i get it from cassette to the ones and zeros format? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: tony party on 07-04-08 about all i have a cassette of 6-8 Le’me in Masha tunes along w/ Fletcher live with Paul Wartella on drums oh and a poop load of Phil A Sheo & the Wet T-shirt contest stuff...now how do i get it from cassette to the ones and zeros format? Reply to this message

Posted by: Riki Rachtman on 07-04-08 about Thought Industry Or me In response to: on 07-04-08 for Thought Industry Your best bet is to try Dustin Donaldson, methinks. >> live Thought Industry videos? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: on 07-04-08 about Thought Industry Your best bet is to try Dustin Donaldson, methinks. >> live Thought Industry videos? Reply to this message

Posted by: Spell Check on 07-02-08 about Lo-Fi Scorpio Gem is spelt with a G, Joby. Reply to this message

Posted by: Colin on 07-01-08 about all I couldn't play the rhythm and the solo at the same time so I had to do a whistle solo :) In response to: Jeff on 07-01-08 for all Where's the solo????? Nash and I tried to re-mix the original recording (sans original tape, working with just the CD) to remove/extend the fade-out so the listener could hear more of your awesome guitar solo. In response to: Colin on 07-01-08 for all Colin Bradford Plays screwtape hit live http://youtube.com/watch?v=T3qo2F-2Vvw --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Trey on 07-01-08 about Thought Industry Does anyone have any live Thought Industry videos? The earlier the better. I've seen clips on youtube, someone has to have the originals. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 07-01-08 about all Where's the solo????? Nash and I tried to re-mix the original recording (sans original tape, working with just the CD) to remove/extend the fade-out so the listener could hear more of your awesome guitar solo. In response to: Colin on 07-01-08 for all Colin Bradford Plays screwtape hit live http://youtube.com/watch?v=T3qo2F-2Vvw --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Colin on 07-01-08 about all Colin Bradford Plays screwtape hit live http://youtube.com/watch?v=T3qo2F-2Vvw Reply to this message

Posted by: Derek Taylor AKA Randy Rhoades on 06-29-08 about Desacrator Just doing some searching and came upon your site. Holy flashback... dtaylor936@yahoo.com Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 06-27-08 about all Thanks! Send the Blackjack info on. By 7" are you referring to records that require a turntable to play? (otherwise we're hard pressed to muster six inches here at the 'lab) In response to: M*tt D*rbin on 06-26-08 for all Jeff, really digging the new TASM Lab. Wow. Killer cuts all the way through. Best K'zoo-related rock I've heard in years. I'm getting my Blackjack label off the ground with a 7" series. We should talk. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: M*tt D*rbin on 06-26-08 about all Jeff, really digging the new TASM Lab. Wow. Killer cuts all the way through. Best K'zoo-related rock I've heard in years. I'm getting my Blackjack label off the ground with a 7" series. We should talk. Reply to this message

Posted by: d nash on 06-25-08 about Snapshots Jesus, that second photo down of booger bob looks a hell of a lot like brent O no? Reply to this message

Posted by: Kathryn on 06-25-08 about all (psst, hey Nicole....xoxo) Reply to this message

Posted by: Joby on 06-24-08 about all Cherry did you just call Bryers a Dark Prince? Creepy dude, creepy . . . Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 06-24-08 about all Speaking of old, won't it seem creepy seeing the 40-year-old Shaggers leering at the 17-year-old tail at WMU orientation? *me=totally jealous* It's taken Bryers a long time to pussify some perfectly good metal. Don't forget how he ruined Twitch after "feel the palm". He once even stated that he should have been awarded the "sammy hagar ruin for favorite metal band" award for screwing up Twitch. He would eventually go such lows as having Steve Martin and Kevin "eyelock" Oberlin playing "I love you more than you'll ever know" in Sleet. Reply to this message

Posted by: Jim Cherry on 06-23-08 about all Just heard "Hazel & Black Rabbit." And let me tell you, Bryers rhymes with pussy. Whatever happened to the dark prince of K'zoo? Jesus, are we all getting old or what? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 06-23-08 about Top 10 Dry humor doesn't always do well in typed arial. Reply to this message

Posted by: Matt Gross on 06-23-08 about everything The Shag is playing WMU student orientation concert in August. I'm getting dozens of free tix. They won't last long. Hit me up ASAP. Peace. Now playing: Luscious Jackson, Paul's Boutique Reply to this message

Posted by: on 06-23-08 about Top 10 welcome to the joke...little late, but hey what can ya do? In response to: Excuse me, punk... back in 1992, i do not recall there were any cell phones that was available for photo shoot. on 06-23-08 for Top 10 In response to: the kap'n on 06-21-08 for Top 10 Sardonic Convergence, fall of '88, 89? Tim Lee (of the Windbreakers, Jackson MI roots?) was the headliner? My pit-stained shirt is packed away, hence the ?s. FAQ was on the bill for sure, as was Buddy Ebsen's Cuticle and four or five other bands?, including the Sinatras, who didn't actually play because bands went long and we were asked to bow out to keep the show on schedule. Or because we were expendable. In response to: Jeff on 06-20-08 for Top 10 That would of been 1988 Tuna fest, as I remember the Junk Monkeys and couldn't of been there in 1987. Also, for 5 (not having camera), you should of just used the one on your cell phone, dipshit. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Excuse me, punk... back in 1992, i do not recall there were any cell phones that was available for photo shoot. on 06-23-08 about Top 10 In response to: the kap'n on 06-21-08 for Top 10 Sardonic Convergence, fall of '88, 89? Tim Lee (of the Windbreakers, Jackson MI roots?) was the headliner? My pit-stained shirt is packed away, hence the ?s. FAQ was on the bill for sure, as was Buddy Ebsen's Cuticle and four or five other bands?, including the Sinatras, who didn't actually play because bands went long and we were asked to bow out to keep the show on schedule. Or because we were expendable. In response to: Jeff on 06-20-08 for Top 10 That would of been 1988 Tuna fest, as I remember the Junk Monkeys and couldn't of been there in 1987. Also, for 5 (not having camera), you should of just used the one on your cell phone, dipshit. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 06-22-08 about GHG Ok, hitler and the flower people is fixed. If you have any other problems, please don't hesitate to call our 24 hour service hot line. Come again yall y'here Reply to this message

Posted by: Steffen on 06-21-08 about GHG hey, i tried to download the whole bunch and it works except for hitler and the flower people: The requested URL /songs/genius/09_Hitler_And_The_Flower_People.mp3 was not found on this server. Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. please fix it, im eager to get this stuff. ;-= greets s. Reply to this message

Posted by: the kap'n on 06-21-08 about Top 10 Sardonic Convergence, fall of '88, 89? Tim Lee (of the Windbreakers, Jackson MI roots?) was the headliner? My pit-stained shirt is packed away, hence the ?s. FAQ was on the bill for sure, as was Buddy Ebsen's Cuticle and four or five other bands?, including the Sinatras, who didn't actually play because bands went long and we were asked to bow out to keep the show on schedule. Or because we were expendable. In response to: Jeff on 06-20-08 for Top 10 That would of been 1988 Tuna fest, as I remember the Junk Monkeys and couldn't of been there in 1987. Also, for 5 (not having camera), you should of just used the one on your cell phone, dipshit. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 06-20-08 about Top 10 That would of been 1988 Tuna fest, as I remember the Junk Monkeys and couldn't of been there in 1987. Also, for 5 (not having camera), you should of just used the one on your cell phone, dipshit. Reply to this message

Posted by: Attlex Valtila on 06-13-08 about Thought Industry I'm coming from France and I've just discovered the Thought Industry's music. It's amazing... and I wonder how a such band isn't more known and rated. I don't understand. Reply to this message

Posted by: Stephanie on 06-11-08 about Rollinghead You're right Dave, I don't know where the brain cells went that stored the name of Missy's ex, but it wasn't Phil. I got the direction of causality completely wrong during memory retrieval - there was a time that RH played in Flint and Phil decided that he hated Willie and wanted to kill him. So Willie is probably in the clear (for that, anyway). I was just packing my old memorabilia and came across a rave review of RH in Dirt magazine. Great band, and some great times. In response to: Dave on 01-30-08 for Rollinghead What? In response to: Stephanie on 01-29-08 for Rollinghead I don't know if Willie was to blame, but someone he very much used to want to kill (Missy's ex, Phil Hines from Flint) died recently. Cause of death unknown. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Webmaster jeff on 06-11-08 about all Derp! I haven't been receiving cool@leons messages since early March. I'm collecting them now. I'm sorry if you sent one and it seems like I ignored you. Reply to this message

Posted by: doug on 06-09-08 about Fatsack thinking back, i do think that cows show was originally a resin mattress show, but cwis gave it to us. no, we didnt beg for it though... and, about you two talkin' shit about we gitter heros ... we talked as much about you guys too... In response to: kiry on 06-03-08 for Fatsack ahh...fatsack...always a pain in my side...would come home from an exhausting day of delivering auto parts to find fatsack practicing in my basement on lane blvd....ugh...loud and suck=suck suck.....five string guitar?....would you please purchase a sixth string doug?....please.....mooched our guitar player away....stole a resin mattress show....that one with the cows....yeah....remember....cwis wemy was convinced that show would launch him...and the rest of you into stardom....fuckers..... my favorite thing?....fatsack tshirts selling at flipside like hotcakes.....all the gangster homies on the north side bought em up......i'll always remember toodling around town and seeing gnar gnar gangsters rocking that shirt....cripes i wish i had one still.... oh yeah...the fact that you guys practiced in the basement allowed me to become the best of friends with retardinour....we would sit up stairs while you boys were in the basement recording the guitar tracks and laugh at how much "suck" was pouring up the stairs....egads....so something good did come out of that band.... --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: paul... on 06-09-08 about Fatsack thinking back, i do think that cows show was originally a resin mattress show, but cwis gave it to us. no, we didnt beg for it though... and, about you two talkin' shit about we gitter heros ... we talked as much about you guys too... In response to: kiry on 06-03-08 for Fatsack ahh...fatsack...always a pain in my side...would come home from an exhausting day of delivering auto parts to find fatsack practicing in my basement on lane blvd....ugh...loud and suck=suck suck.....five string guitar?....would you please purchase a sixth string doug?....please.....mooched our guitar player away....stole a resin mattress show....that one with the cows....yeah....remember....cwis wemy was convinced that show would launch him...and the rest of you into stardom....fuckers..... my favorite thing?....fatsack tshirts selling at flipside like hotcakes.....all the gangster homies on the north side bought em up......i'll always remember toodling around town and seeing gnar gnar gangsters rocking that shirt....cripes i wish i had one still.... oh yeah...the fact that you guys practiced in the basement allowed me to become the best of friends with retardinour....we would sit up stairs while you boys were in the basement recording the guitar tracks and laugh at how much "suck" was pouring up the stairs....egads....so something good did come out of that band.... --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: kiry on 06-03-08 about Fatsack ahh...fatsack...always a pain in my side...would come home from an exhausting day of delivering auto parts to find fatsack practicing in my basement on lane blvd....ugh...loud and suck=suck suck.....five string guitar?....would you please purchase a sixth string doug?....please.....mooched our guitar player away....stole a resin mattress show....that one with the cows....yeah....remember....cwis wemy was convinced that show would launch him...and the rest of you into stardom....fuckers..... my favorite thing?....fatsack tshirts selling at flipside like hotcakes.....all the gangster homies on the north side bought em up......i'll always remember toodling around town and seeing gnar gnar gangsters rocking that shirt....cripes i wish i had one still.... oh yeah...the fact that you guys practiced in the basement allowed me to become the best of friends with retardinour....we would sit up stairs while you boys were in the basement recording the guitar tracks and laugh at how much "suck" was pouring up the stairs....egads....so something good did come out of that band.... Reply to this message

Posted by: Gary on 05-29-08 about Rollinghead Does anyone still have this video? The link is dead. In response to: Bill Fergusson on 05-29-07 for Rollinghead Here is a link to a video. Rollinghead opening for the Pixies. Its about 25 minutes long. 300 megs You need a player that will play a Divx avi file. I Hope you can play it. http://www.skatezoo.com/Rollingheadlive/Rollingheadpixies.avi --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Scott Stone on 05-20-08 about Ron Muniz Yep...that's my old man. Remember the little kindergarten brat that used to come over and wait for the bus with Diana about thirty years ago? That's me. In response to: Ron Muniz on 05-20-08 for Ron Muniz thanks Scott, Stone as in my 8th grade math teacher? In response to: Scott Stone on 05-15-08 for Ron Muniz Hey neighbor. Looooooooong time no see. Love the tunes. Keep it up. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: dan on 05-20-08 about everything Damn, Jeff! Give me some Tasm/Bryers or some Grant/Roche! that would make my summer. Or hows about the tape that the Oberlin bros. made when they were in elementary school. Or the Paul Enzio fishing lure demonstration video? (not that I have anything to contribute) Reply to this message

Posted by: Ron Muniz on 05-20-08 about Ron Muniz thanks Scott, Stone as in my 8th grade math teacher? In response to: Scott Stone on 05-15-08 for Ron Muniz Hey neighbor. Looooooooong time no see. Love the tunes. Keep it up. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Hartman on 05-19-08 about everything Some new tracks by some old Kalamazoo cats can be found here: http://www.kuronekomusic.com Karl Rove = Sam Bailey from Snorkel Timbrefire = Rob Stimpson from Fat Sack The Mel Bay = Sam Bailey, Mike Hartman, and Todd Rittmann Reply to this message

Posted by: Tony Party on 05-17-08 about So This is Outerspace Skip has a copy on DAT but has no way to transfer it to another format Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 05-15-08 about Fletcher One of our high lords has spoken! In response to: halsey on 05-15-08 for Fletcher can't forget the jah kings either...i know stylistically it may not fit, but given the era that this site covers, i think they deserve attention. plus, anyone in the 'clique' who really paid any attention, spent many a thursday night at soda getting stoned and watching eric aardema play drums flawlessly from the back room. In response to: Master on 05-13-08 for Fletcher Who was Jamie Betwee? The high lords of the temple are still convening on listing certain bands such as the Erj, Jah Kings, Mom Handy, Banter Clan, Mustard Plug, even Knee Deep Shag.... You can't have your clique and eat it too. Reply to this message

Posted by: halsey on 05-15-08 about Fletcher can't forget the jah kings either...i know stylistically it may not fit, but given the era that this site covers, i think they deserve attention. plus, anyone in the 'clique' who really paid any attention, spent many a thursday night at soda getting stoned and watching eric aardema play drums flawlessly from the back room. In response to: Master on 05-13-08 for Fletcher Who was Jamie Betwee? The high lords of the temple are still convening on listing certain bands such as the Erj, Jah Kings, Mom Handy, Banter Clan, Mustard Plug, even Knee Deep Shag.... You can't have your clique and eat it too. That's awesome about the spandex shorts though. I had a pair myself, just not the cock to go with them. In response to: cookie2 on 05-12-08 for Fletcher Have we all forgotten The Erj? They were around selling out the soda before rollinghead, verve pipe, etc. Very familiar names involved. Therron Kokales on git fiddle, Jamie Dennison on bass, Chris Kooi on drums and Craig Foster on vox and spandex shorts.(and he played them for all they were worth!) A good bunch of guys regardless of the cheeze factor ten. Many of them went on to play in even better bands. Jamie, in too many to count ,and Therron in the Tower Blocks. Maybe one of them will see this and post some tunes for nostalgic value. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Scott Stone on 05-15-08 about Ron Muniz Hey neighbor. Looooooooong time no see. Love the tunes. Keep it up. Reply to this message

Posted by: Burton Cummings on 05-14-08 about Fletcher In response to: Animal on 05-14-08 for Fletcher The paper story is funny...I'll save it for later. In response to: Master on 05-13-08 for Fletcher Who was Jamie Betwee? --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Can't wait... Reply to this message

Posted by: Coach2ma on 05-14-08 about So This is Outerspace Sadly, you are right......but it is probably long gone now....I am still trying to get a copy from Pat Duncan, but it is slow going. In response to: Tony Party on 05-14-08 for So This is Outerspace i think Canada has a copy In response to: Aaron Pagdon on 05-13-08 for So This is Outerspace I have been in touch with Pat Duncan from WFMU to try and obtain the STIOS session we did live (1999?). You don't have a copy, do you? In response to: Bryan Charles on 04-10-08 for So This is Outerspace That's Dan Buettner on bass. Dan played in Ordination of Aaron and Broken Hearts Are Blue before STIOS. I remember 98 being a weird time for me in Kalamazoo, a lot of my friends had moved away and old favorite bands had broken up. I was feeling a little left behind and threatened by some of the new players, so out of early 20s defensiveness and confusion wrote that line on the flyer about the "dead scene." Not much else to say except I like all the songs we recorded. Koskuc, send Jeff more. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Tony Party on 05-14-08 about So This is Outerspace i think Canada has a copy In response to: Aaron Pagdon on 05-13-08 for So This is Outerspace I have been in touch with Pat Duncan from WFMU to try and obtain the STIOS session we did live (1999?). You don't have a copy, do you? In response to: Bryan Charles on 04-10-08 for So This is Outerspace That's Dan Buettner on bass. Dan played in Ordination of Aaron and Broken Hearts Are Blue before STIOS. I remember 98 being a weird time for me in Kalamazoo, a lot of my friends had moved away and old favorite bands had broken up. I was feeling a little left behind and threatened by some of the new players, so out of early 20s defensiveness and confusion wrote that line on the flyer about the "dead scene." Not much else to say except I like all the songs we recorded. Koskuc, send Jeff more. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Animal on 05-14-08 about Fletcher Managed/booked TI for a while around the time they signed w/MB. Also was the booking agent for the State Theater, and was kind enough to provide me with information from Pollstar's venue directory so I could get 4Peace into some venues, which led to 4P's connecting with some stuff in Chicago, including a couple of nice gigs, a guy named Ralph (ROMP Productions, in Chicago), and a band called Wickerman who I believe are still around...or maybe that was another band, Deep Blue $STRING - Dream, maybe? my memory is less than pristine these days...anyway, wasn't long after this that I totaled my car and dropped off the planet for a while, but they traded gigs back and forth. Also led to one of the funniest single events that I ever participated in while under the influence of enriched paper, as well as the acquisition of the "No Cooking Outside" rat warning that spent a couple of years after that stapled to one of 4P's speaker stacks. The paper story is funny, but I'm taking up too much space per message, I'll save it for later. In response to: Master on 05-13-08 for Fletcher Who was Jamie Betwee? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 05-13-08 about Fletcher Who was Jamie Betwee? The high lords of the temple are still convening on listing certain bands such as the Erj, Jah Kings, Mom Handy, Banter Clan, Mustard Plug, even Knee Deep Shag.... You can't have your clique and eat it too. That's awesome about the spandex shorts though. I had a pair myself, just not the cock to go with them. In response to: cookie2 on 05-12-08 for Fletcher Have we all forgotten The Erj? They were around selling out the soda before rollinghead, verve pipe, etc. Very familiar names involved. Therron Kokales on git fiddle, Jamie Dennison on bass, Chris Kooi on drums and Craig Foster on vox and spandex shorts.(and he played them for all they were worth!) A good bunch of guys regardless of the cheeze factor ten. Many of them went on to play in even better bands. Jamie, in too many to count ,and Therron in the Tower Blocks. Maybe one of them will see this and post some tunes for nostalgic value. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Aaron Pagdon on 05-13-08 about So This is Outerspace I have been in touch with Pat Duncan from WFMU to try and obtain the STIOS session we did live (1999?). You don't have a copy, do you? In response to: Bryan Charles on 04-10-08 for So This is Outerspace That's Dan Buettner on bass. Dan played in Ordination of Aaron and Broken Hearts Are Blue before STIOS. I remember 98 being a weird time for me in Kalamazoo, a lot of my friends had moved away and old favorite bands had broken up. I was feeling a little left behind and threatened by some of the new players, so out of early 20s defensiveness and confusion wrote that line on the flyer about the "dead scene." Not much else to say except I like all the songs we recorded. Koskuc, send Jeff more. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: cookie2 on 05-12-08 about Fletcher Have we all forgotten The Erj? They were around selling out the soda before rollinghead, verve pipe, etc. Very familiar names involved. Therron Kokales on git fiddle, Jamie Dennison on bass, Chris Kooi on drums and Craig Foster on vox and spandex shorts.(and he played them for all they were worth!) A good bunch of guys regardless of the cheeze factor ten. Many of them went on to play in even better bands. Jamie, in too many to count ,and Therron in the Tower Blocks. Maybe one of them will see this and post some tunes for nostalgic value. Reply to this message

Posted by: Rod MacQuarrie on 05-12-08 about Rollinghead Man, this takes me way back... I met Dean Van Dyke at Smith Burnham Hall on the WMU campus in 1986. He had just dyed his hair black and it hung down in front nearly down to his chin. What a great guy. Dean was a huge Church fan and he introduced me to their back catalog. He also taught me many of the chords to Church songs and I've been a Church fan ever since. Over the years we stayed in touch and actually lived right behind him. Dave was dating some girl and I was dating her sister. I'd go to parties at his place from time to time and watched as Dave and Dean slowly morphed into something a bit more aggressive. They were really influenced by the Led Zeppelin direction the Cult were heading in. I recall Dean mentioning he was in a band called the Jet Boys before Murder of Crows back in Muskegon, but Dave Grant wasn't in that band. I still have a Murder of Crows sticker (unused). At one point I sang a cover version of Unguarded Moment during one of the parties Dean and Dave put on. I think the band was Memories of Tomorrow. What a great time that was! As for Dave Grant, I first met him at a Confirmation concert. What an awesome band! I used to have a cassette of their one and only album but it's long gone now. Dave was really influenced by Cactus World News and the Waterboys as I recall, and in the late 80's he was digging Runrig's first album. After the Confirmation broke up, I bought Dave Grant's Rickenbacker 12-string and Jazz Chorus amp that he used in the Confirmation. Ended up selling them around 1991. Later on I remember Dave asking if I still had it. Around that time he was getting a divorce and had started Rolling Head. Around Rolling Head broke up I ran into Dave Van Dyke. Apparently he was taking courses to become a Dental Hygienist or something. I haven't seen or heard from any of them since. Anyone have contact info? Reply to this message

Posted by: John Henry on 05-11-08 about everything As requested: Actors stuff is now online, four tracks, you can get 'em at http://www.lowgenius.net/lg_music.asp along with my rambling observations and apologies about each individual track. Yeah, I know, I need to rework my navigation structure. Anyway, there's the mooziks, hope you enjoy them if for no other reason than they make a good giggle or three. (Jeff - I'm going to get links up from my site to yours eventually, so thanks for letting me add my spam here...) -jh Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 05-09-08 about Fletcher Well that's a fine howdoyoudo! In response to: Tricia Chappell on 05-09-08 for Fletcher I used to make snacks for the Fletcher boys when they would practice in the Douglas St. house basement. I would make like ramen noodles on toast, potatoes w/ carl budding corn beef sandwich slices, sandwich cookies dipped in jello, that sort of fare. It really fueled the boys on & I feel somewhat responsible for their success. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Tricia Chappell on 05-09-08 about Fletcher I used to make snacks for the Fletcher boys when they would practice in the Douglas St. house basement. I would make like ramen noodles on toast, potatoes w/ carl budding corn beef sandwich slices, sandwich cookies dipped in jello, that sort of fare. It really fueled the boys on & I feel somewhat responsible for their success. Reply to this message

Posted by: John Henry on 05-07-08 about Top 10 4p's "Surrender" and "Mountain Song" covers deserve a note, if for no other reason that Dave's shrieking scream in the "MS" chorus that would later make a stolen career for that chick from Otep...and, of course, it's Cheap Trick. Also their "Ironfist," played at roughly the speed of light. You wouldn't think the melodic proto-grunge contingent of the k'zoo underground would be the guys to out-speed Motorhead on their own tune, but they did. (Self-indulgent and over-opinionated sidebar/history lesson: Hoekstra was actually the first person I ever heard refer to a band as 'Grungy,' in reference to Cowboys from Hell...probably a year before the words "grunge" and "alternative" became trendy catchalls. I miss Dave. Dude had a depth of musical knowledge that I think a lot of people never quite realized, in spite of that wall o' vinyl he kept at the house on park street. Dustin turned me on to a lot of cool drum shit over the years and taught me a lot about how to listen to - and later create - the kind of percussive subtleties and gracenotes that you never quite hear but can totally make a song. Nobody would notice it if I didn't cop to it, but there's a poppy ride cymbal triplet pattern on one of the Actors tunes that was directly descended from the pattern in 'Chalice,' at least to the point that's what was in my head when I wrote it. Dave turned me on to damn near everything else between 89 and 92. First time I ever heard Pantera, Nirvana, Janes, Soul Asylum, Mudhoney, Mother Love Bone, Soundgarden...all Hoekstra's doing, and I'm not kidding even a little bit when I say it changed my life every bit as much if not more than Dustin's throwing everything from VH's "Outta Love Again" to FNM's "Zombie Eaters" at me changed the way I play. To this day, I don't care what *anybody* says, Temple of the Dog is the greatest musical experience ever shoveled on to one piece of plastic...and if it hadn't been for Hoekstra, I probably wouldn't have heard it until a year later when MTV got hold of 'Hunger Strike.') One-offs: Bat's almost-solo rendition of "I Would For You" at a X's show at Soda, just because a) nobody had the slightest clue that the boy could sing and b) I was standing about five feet away on stage right and could literally *see* him shaking with nerves...and he did a real decent job of it. Special mention because it was MY FUCKIN IDEA: The 'Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald' cover that Suiciety got a line in Spin for. (You can throw stuff if you want, but I *still* like that song and still think it would make a really great cover if you dumped fifty gallons of distortion in it and dialed Lightfoot's nose down into a more Vedder-esque hum on the vocal.) Ironically, I'd totalled my car and dropped off the scene by that point, but I did manage to catch it during the five minutes new Missias' was open. Didn't 4p+X's Rob cover 'Hunger Strike' once, long before it hit MTV? Or maybe it was X's + Hoekstra...seems like I heard this happened, but didn't see it happen. Hope it didn't suck, I think Dave would have nailed the Vedder part, but I don't really remember if Rob had the pipes for a quality Cornell impersonation. Reply to this message

Posted by: John Henry on 05-06-08 about all I blew this. The correct answer is: It means their name was really "FA" after that and they were just fooling us. Or maybe they were just out of line (dequeued)? In response to: Jeff on 05-06-08 for all What's "DQ'ed"? Does it mean "dairy queened"?, as in Chonk got dairy queened? At first I thought it sounded yummy, but now I think it might be something sexual... We'll post The Actors no questions asked. Quality nor intent has ever been posting criteria before. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: John Henry on 05-06-08 about all lol disqualified. Since consulting with my parentals, whose brains have almost as many holes in them as mine does, it seems I may be mistaken on that point; I'm hearing now that they came in second or third. My mom's convinced we won and the Sounds of Silence freshmen came in second, FA-Q (she calls 'em "fah kyew") third. Maybe it was the other band that didn't place, who knows? Chonk might, but Halsey won't - he wasn't in the band yet then. I'll get a link up to Actors stuff in a day or so - don't worry about hosting it, I need an excuse to start delving into my musical past on my own site anyway, this is as good as any. I'd get it up (there's that secks agin) faster, but I've got a client with an active contract who has been gettin slacked on these last couple of days. There was a 4th band on the bill as well I think - maybe even a fifth - but I couldn't tell you their names. Hey, it's Tuesday. In some alternate universe, the Verve Pipe is playing Harvey's tonight... In response to: Jeff on 05-06-08 for all What's "DQ'ed"? Does it mean "dairy queened"?, as in Chonk got dairy queened? At first I thought it sounded yummy, but now I think it might be something sexual... We'll post The Actors no questions asked. Quality nor intent has ever been posting criteria before. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jeff on 05-06-08 about all What's "DQ'ed"? Does it mean "dairy queened"?, as in Chonk got dairy queened? At first I thought it sounded yummy, but now I think it might be something sexual... We'll post The Actors no questions asked. Quality nor intent has ever been posting criteria before. Reply to this message

Posted by: on 05-06-08 about all *shrug* all right then. Give me a couple of days to write something appropriately self-effacing and get 'em uploaded. In response to: kapn on 05-05-08 for all I wanna hear Actors demos way more than "The Freshman" any day ... --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: kapn on 05-05-08 about all I wanna hear Actors demos way more than "The Freshman" any day - simply not enough Turtles influence on the LT crowd back in the day. Michael Maltese freaked Flo and Eddie out by bringing a White Whale You Baby reel-to-reel to a Turtles show in Portage a few years back. Ronnie Sinatra asked 'em if they wanted to come out for drinks with us, and, well, "We Ain't Gonna Party No More" wasn't sung in response but it should've been. But I digress - Actors demos - please post! Athens forever! ... a ridiculously poppy thing called "Some Kind Of Something" that got some airplay and sounded way too much like "Happy Together" by the Turtles but got some airplay. Reply to this message

Posted by: John Henry on 05-05-08 about all Karen moved to chicago. Mistype. Reply to this message

Posted by: Alias? on 05-05-08 about all Noooo. Totally different person. Guess it's bio time... Dan *did* play drums for 4P. I played drums all over the place, but most of the bands I was in that anyone would know about were pre-grunge metal/hair bands - a MEHTULL cover band based in Galesburg called "Push" and then Axis with Jason Gentry and Mike McIntosh (Jason, as I've mentioned previously, passed away a few years ago; Mike is now the lead singer for popular coverbar band Drop35. Axis opened the very first multi-local-band bill, before there was a Lollapalooza let alone a kalapalooza, at the State Theatre, august 1 1987). After that I was involved in the little godband thing that eventually became "Remnant," which was a godmetal band featuring Doug Garnett, Shawn Warne, and Dave Foxx of Obtrusive Mode/Louden (Gary Green was second guitar when I was involved). Throughout the 80's, I was also just 'guy on the scene,' attending (and playing) a lot of basement parties (including Stosh Warner's birthday party featuring a little band from BC called Desacrator) and generally doing a lot of MEHTULL covers and a few originals, including the infamous "Looks that Kill" session with Steve Spaeth back when he was first learning to play, and later the St. A's Battle of the Bands that featured FAQ with a VERY poofy-haired Chunk getting DQd for f-bombing and I *still* can't remember 100% if we beat or came in second to Johnny with an Eye's cover of "Sounds of Silence." I went to alternative ed. in portage with JWAE vox Jim(?), who I think ended up continuing on with the VA's as they became VP. He asked me once if I wanted to join JWAE, and I turned it down...and have been kicking myself for it ever since I heard "Freshmen" on the radio the first time. People called me Animal back then. When I was in the godband with Garnett my gf got tight with a girl named Karen, who was Doug's betrothed at the time; she later ended up dating Dustin for quite a while. I had a daughter in 1989, which caused my removal from godband as having chilluns outside of marriage was a distinctly un-christian thing to do. Later, me mommy and baby lived on Rose street at the time, right around the corner from Dustin's apartment at dutton and burdick, the one with the smograsbroad wall - this is where Spaeth, G. Green and I recorded the original version of the weird bass-heavy offtime break/trippy thing that later made its way onto a Clockmaker tape sans the drum machine and vocal parts I recorded - and after mommy and I broke up (see my ref to Vegas Jenkins, toward whom I bear no animosity at all, but it's all relevant because that happened due to Kelly (mom) being friends with Karen who was dating Dustin who was buds with Vegas). I got wrapped up in vacillating between being daddy and being rock star, with daddy ultimately winning. Went without a kit for a couple of years - during the 4p era on westnedge and shurgard - and basically hung around, then disappeared into family life with my new GF, my kid, and her kid for a while around the same time 4P replaced Coville and became Suiciety. I'd gone to school with Matt B (and way before that was in string orchestra with Karla W in elementary and middle school) and knew him and Greg from Worhead (actually jammed with them a couple of times on Bat's set over at Greg's house), knew Dan & Tracy from Star World days, knew pretty much everyone else in town from the same time period. Spent a lot of time with 4p as "manager" (trans: wanted to be playing but had no drums, but made a bunch of flyers at the copy shop at western and spend a lot of time driving around to and occasionally booking gigs including reptile house and the dance factory in chicago) Also booked some shows for 4P and a DC-Core band from Jackson called Sky Juice. AFTER Suiciety broke up, I had made my way back onto the 'scene' a bit, spent some time living with Freedom Rock and Beaknose Greg at the fruit warehouse (Me and beaknose jammed with Halsey there once, I want to say? And me and Bogema and Reimer played the world's most sucktastic attempt at covering 'Stranglehold' there one drunk night as well, but mostly I did way too many drugs and drove a cab). Eventually, after 4p/Suiciety called it quits and Dave moved away, me, Matt, and Coville had a three-piece thing called Gypsy Blue that was actually quite a cool band but Matt's perfectionism kept us from ever playing out beyond having some parties at the rehearsal space (also my apartment at the time) above Stoops' furniture downtown, across MI avenue from the Whoarehouse. That eventually fell apart because of Coville's frustration with Matt for us never playing out, and Matt's frustration with me because I wasn't working at the time and he was working for Mick Stoops who was leaning on *him* about me paying rent, so blah. Around this same time, my folks moved to North Carolina and took my daughter with them since I was no longer really even able to support myself, let alone my kid, and when GB fell apart I followed them down here in August of '94. Here in NC, I dropped my last name (DeJong) and started going by John Henry. I was in a Grateful Dead hippie band called Wax Planet for a while, and a three-piece that I actually forget the name of which was very Tool-ish, a brief stint with local heroes Jam Pain Society, and a four-peace bluesy/kinksy outfit called The Actors. The last is the only one I have music from, a rough four-track demo that had a couple of nice little rockers on it, one semi-punkish thing that I didn't like, and a ridiculously poppy thing called "Some Kind Of Something" that got some airplay and sounded way too much like "Happy Together" by the Turtles but got some airplay. That ended in 2002 when the bass player became convinced that aliens from mars were "fucking with his head" and I was controlling them (no kidding - he went in to a local psych hospital a few weeks after I quit for a voluntary eval and they refused to let him leave), and I ended up selling my kit to try and avoid moving back home with the rentals. It didn't work, and I've been kitless, bandless, and basically cashless ever since, as I was busy trying to be a rock star when I should have been busy trying to get an education. These days I run an independent web design/IT consultancy making not nearly as much as I'd like. Still a musician at heart and fully intend to get back into instruments when I can afford it, but am long long past the whole 'living in a van' thing. Oh, and I spent a couple of years as a ring announcer/manager in local indy pro-wrestling outfits including OMEGA which (if you follow that silly-assed business) spawned the Hardys, Hurricane Helms, Shannon Moore, Joey Mercury, Joey Abs, and a few other ridiculous caricatures of masculinity that you can see on RAW every monday night. Having seen that the inside of that business was a really ugly place, and being highly pain-averse, I decided not to try and follow them to fame and fortune. I've got some MP3's of The Actors, but they're really nowhere near the level of cool that Kalamazoo was pumping out, and probably not worth posting in the context of the MI scene. My personal sites at www.lowgenius.net and has a few things on it now (in the middle of redesign); my business site is at lowgenius.com and is almost completely offline at the moment because I'm building a content management system for my clients to use so they don't have to e-mail me to find out how their projects are progressing. (In the middle of being an animal, I've also been a computer geek going back to the days of the TRS-80; I started getting back into database and eventually web development around 1995.) I've got no photos up and really nothing musical related, but will eventually, and would like to eventually get back to kalamazoo and plug back in to everything...maybe a decade and a half of growing up has tempered my ego and allowed enough water to pass under the bridge that I could help some folks somehow, or something, but who knows. Just taking it day by day right now, doing the best I can. That's my little story, "who I am." Eventually I'll get some pictures up or something, but all my audio tape and pics and video from the good old bad old days is long-lost. I pretty well cut ties with everyone when I moved...the last show I saw in Michigan was the way-packed jesus lizard gig in 95 and I haven't set foot in Kalamazoo or talked to anyone from there other than via these boards and my high school reunion site since 2000. Karen moved to Detroit; my daughter's mom got married; you know what happened to Dustin, Matt, Dan, Karla, et. al. Thanks for a great site that brings back some great memories. Reply to this message

Posted by: JH on 05-05-08 about all Dutton and burdick, not alcott. Reply to this message

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Posted by: John Henry on 05-04-08 about contribute info If anyone's interested, I've got 6 mp3 tracks here from SF band "Trichotic," which was J. Gentry's last gig before he went to jam with Jimi a couple of years ago. Doesn't quite fit, and no idea how you'd get permission to post 'em, but I have 'em if you want. I tried to track down my liverbox shirt and get a picture of me in it (maybe someone will remember who the hell I am, but they still won't care...), but I can't find it right now. However, here's a lil treat for ya: http://www.lowgenius.net/images/4pti.jpg Sorry about the poor quality - it's a photocopy on red paper :P. I can't remember who did this one - might have been Dustin, or Amy (the girl Dave H. was dating). I had the FourPeace/Tongue demo on tape, but I think the particles fell off about ten years ago. I've also got what I *think* is the only videotape in existence of Gypsy Blue, the three-piece thing me, Bogema, and Coville did post-Suiciety. I'll see if I can track it down, but the last time I saw it was about 7 years ago. If I can find it and it's got enough life in it to digitize, I'll do so. And as bitter as my memories of Kalamazoo sometimes are, let me know if you need any space to store/serve this stuff. Thanks again for a bittersweet set of trips down memory lane. If you can track down Matt Bogema, he'll have the 4P/Suiciety stuff somewhere. If he doesn't, Jimmy Black will (Coldwater or something last I heard). Riemer might have the Tongue stuff. -jh Reply to this message

Posted by: John Henry on 05-04-08 about Thought Industry One Hundred Eleven Million Zebras Dead. It's how Dustin's old Desecrator drumset was made, straight from the horse's mouth about 20 million years ago... -jh In response to: what? on 10-28-07 for Thought Industry after 15 years of not knowing, what does 111mzd mean? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: John Henry on 05-04-08 about How Jeff remembers it Another odd little vacation into the past...FP got undersold. I dumped my daughter's mom when she took off on my 19th birthday to bang Steve Jenkins over at Dustins little basement on Alcott. Hoping to make it up for the PHNS '88 20th in august (we finally found Karla). A bunch of us must have boogied about the same time - I left in August of '94. First un-Kalapalooza was in '87 and the only one of the 'scene' bands that made it was TI, if I remember right. That band with Doug Garnett and Shawn Warne that wanted to be Queensrhyche headlined with some outfit from Chicago; I borrowed Dave Fox's in the opening act with 'Axis,' which was me, Jason Gentry (RIP, j-bird), and Mikey MacIntosh playing one of those goofy Rail basses that Washburn was making. I always dug FP the mostest - they had that weird kind of PJ vibe going on, really INTO what they were doing. Then they broke up and did the Suiciety thing for a while, then THEY broke up and Dave Hoekstra moved to Florida to be a chef. Me 'n Bogema and Coville did a kind of Janes-ish-meets-gin-blossoms things called Gypsy Blue that everyone was waiting to happen and never did, but we had some great great parties in the apartment above Stoops'...John Reimer told me there I reminded him of Stephen Perkins, best compliment I ever got... ...but honestly, what killed it was the cliquishness. Lots of fond memories, but also lots of memories of an ongoing circle-jerk where everybody was so busy patting each other on the back over how great they were that they didn't notice nobody else was really noticing. That's why ol' Johnny and his Eye ended up getting national (still remember beating them, or ocming in second, don't even remember now, in a Battle of the Bands at St.A's doing nothing but VH/Priest/Maiden covers) while some really great folks like Garnett, Gary Green, Spaeth, Warne, Dan Jaeger, Bogema, Matt Rapczynski, Dave Batey, Scott Vickery, MacIntosh, Hoekstra, Spider Krause (I remember her blowing me out of the water around the same time as the State gig because she was the only other available musician in town who could keep time for 'Diary of a Madman'...and she could play it on a *keyboard* of all things), Jason Gentry, John Reimer, Adam...Berg? Can't remember his last name, guy that played drums for Tongue and I think God Bullies...and a couple hundred other folks got bored, burned out, left town, OD'd, or just plain grew up and moved on. Too much ego and clannishness, not enough real mutual support. If you weren't doing punk or art-metal, you got ignored...or at best, used and then ignored (those 'square pegs' sure packed a lotta folks in for beer and tunes every night running for a while on westnedge, hm?). Damn shame...so much talent went to waste because people were so convinced that our small pond was the next big splash, and if you didn't have your lips firmly affixed to the mudhole of the big fish, you weren't squat. Everybody talking each other up to their faces, and down to their backs. When the best we could collectively manage was Chris Altman running an after-hours club in an abandoned warehouse, I knew it was heading toward over even though I was living there. Bygones and all that, and lord knows I was just as convinced as everyone else of my terminal coolness and entitlement to fame and fortune. Never got it, neither did anyone else. Except Johnny and his Eye. Seeing them open for KISS in Greensboro was simultaneously the proudest and most depressed I've ever been of my home town. Marci was a sweetheart, though. And for all the crap people talked about me behind my back and thought I didn't know it, I still love and miss each and every one of you guys, and gals. Too bad I don't have a kit anymore...it'd be fun to do it all again, but smarter this time, without getting distracted by pussy and blow every five minutes. Would make a great penelope spheris movie though. And I still have my Liverbox t-shirt in red/white/green and a poster for the FP/TI show at the westnedge house...when Enzio was so new to the band that there's a big questionmark for his face. Hope there's still a little of that fire around someplace. Be a damn shame if we all ended up like me. -Animal Reply to this message

Posted by: tony party on 05-03-08 about screwtape anybody got a Plasma alliance record they could spare? I'll trade for a Toxic Attitude record I can ever find a needle for my record player. Reply to this message

Posted by: Joby on 05-01-08 about screwtape Depression was Smelly, was Battle Creek and did put out a pecker tracks 7" which I do in fact own and will convert if I can ever find a needle for my record player. Reply to this message

Posted by: Joby on 05-01-08 about Area 51 Not a chance in hell sir. Not a chance in hell hahahah. In response to: Juggy on 04-30-08 for Area 51 Are you gonna post some material from A51 Live At Club Soda? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Jef on 04-30-08 about screwtape I think Kevin and Mike abscounded the "depression" name from a larger Battle Creek heritage, and I do believe Pecker Tracks was part of that rich heritage, although I've yet to HEAR a Pecker Track track (almost sounds zen: "you've achieved depression when you can hear the Pecker track"). Anyways, in hindsight, I think we would have been better served going with "Swollen Lip", or perhaps eshewing the obligation of a label name altogether, since it couldn't make a lick of difference in the world. BTW, my new records are coming out on the "Leonstemple" label, just like Black Rabbit did. Why? Best hookers at the release parties... In response to: tony party on 04-30-08 for screwtape I thought that Depression records was run by the Boom & the Legion of Doom guy...Smelly smoethin' didn't they put out a Pecker Tracks record too? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Juggy on 04-30-08 about Area 51 Are you gonna post some material from A51 Live At Club Soda? Reply to this message

Posted by: tony party on 04-30-08 about screwtape I thought that Depression records was run by the Boom & the Legion of Doom guy...Smelly smoethin' didn't they put out a Pecker Tracks record too? Reply to this message

Posted by: Jef Till on 04-30-08 about screwtape What part of that is funny or dubious sounding? The Screwtape part or the record label part? Or the Kevin Oberlin part? The exclusion of Mr. Mead? Fill me in.. In response to: Michael J on 04-30-08 for screwtape Screwtape released on Kevin Oberlin's Depression Records? Ha friggin Ha! --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Michael J on 04-30-08 about screwtape Screwtape released on Kevin Oberlin's Depression Records? Ha friggin Ha! Reply to this message

Posted by: Pete on 04-29-08 about all Try the veal, you'll be here all week!... or will you? In response to: The Master on 04-28-08 for all I'm just fucking with you... or am I? In response to: Pete on 04-26-08 for all Huh? New Thought Industry album? --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: The Master on 04-28-08 about all I'm just fucking with you... or am I? In response to: Pete on 04-26-08 for all Huh? New Thought Industry album? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Pete on 04-26-08 about all Huh? New Thought Industry album? Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 04-25-08 about Feedbag Trecia, please forward photos to cool @ leons temple . com (remove spaces) and we'll post them. Thanks! In response to: Trecia on 04-24-08 for Feedbag I have a picture of Geoff and Paul Richardson in their undies that I would like to forward to either of them.. If someone could contact me, that would be great. I don't see a place here to upload stuff. Thanks- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

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Posted by: Trecia on 04-24-08 about Feedbag I have a picture of Geoff and Paul Richardson in their undies that I would like to forward to either of them.. If someone could contact me, that would be great. I don't see a place here to upload stuff. Thanks- Reply to this message

Posted by: butterer@billions on 04-24-08 about Feedbag OMG...this makes my week, people! Classic live Feedbag MP3s? You've gotta be kiddin' me!! Brilliant! I was a "satellite" member of Feedbag, so to speak...played that lovely keyboard line @ the Spork Club Soda show (Lordy, lord...makes me cringe to hear it now). Reply to this message

Posted by: Trecia on 04-24-08 about Feedbag Wow Reply to this message

Posted by: christopher lee simmonds on 04-23-08 about Thought Industry WOW... this is so cool! contact me: myspace.com/christopherleesimmonds Reply to this message

Posted by: Beth Spencer on 04-21-08 about everything In my process of listening to random old tapes recorded off of WIDR from 10 years ago (including So This Is Outer Space!) I found a recording of a band on the Real Live Stir Fry who I believe was called Intermission? Or something close. I only got a tiny bit between two songs. It was a heavier band with a really awesome female singer. Just curious! Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 04-21-08 about Snokel Oakadiddleedoo the snorkel songs are up for your listening pleasure. Reply to this message

Posted by: Vliet on 04-21-08 about Rollinghead I have Daddyhorse. Just not with me. I should fill in the song titles. I know I like that CD. Reply to this message

Posted by: Snasnick Fikpee,the homunculus on 04-21-08 about So This is Outerspace Beth--- What I am trying to get is the recording that So This Is Outerspace did on WFMU (yes, in New Jersey) in late 1998 or early 1999. It was about 7-8 songs with Bryan Charles, Paul Bayer on bass, and Aaron Pagdon on drums. I have emailed Pat Duncan at WFMU and he is trying to dig it up. I will post it here if I can get my hands on it. The recording quality was excellent, if I remember. In response to: Beth Spencer on 04-20-08 for So This is Outerspace You know what is awesome? Having a page from a zine you made when you were a "little girl" PDFed for eternity at Leon's Temple. Ugh. I actually have a few recordings of STIOS that my boyfriend is hoping to eventually turn into MP3s, including a cover of "Yes I Do" on the Real Live Stir Fry, and Bryan Charles solo on The Real Live Stir Fry, and also their demo. Snasnick, these were on WIDR... might be what you are looking for but maybe not because WFMU is in like New Jersey according to a quick google search. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Mandi L. on 04-21-08 about Owsla WOW. This memoir is amazing. I feel like a big pussy when I read and listen to this site because I always cry. Reply to this message

Posted by: New Album on 04-21-08 about everything Hey guys. Matt Gross here. The Shag has a new record coming out on Arista. We're blown away. Record release party details to come... Reply to this message

Posted by: u1oo on 04-21-08 about Snokel http://atzero.com/snorkel/euphoria.mp3 http://atzero.com/snorkel/ron_jeremy.mp3 http://atzero.com/snorkel/my_fist_your_ass.mp3 there they are. Reply to this message

Posted by: Beth Spencer on 04-20-08 about So This is Outerspace You know what is awesome? Having a page from a zine you made when you were a "little girl" PDFed for eternity at Leon's Temple. Ugh. I actually have a few recordings of STIOS that my boyfriend is hoping to eventually turn into MP3s, including a cover of "Yes I Do" on the Real Live Stir Fry, and Bryan Charles solo on The Real Live Stir Fry, and also their demo. Snasnick, these were on WIDR... might be what you are looking for but maybe not because WFMU is in like New Jersey according to a quick google search. Reply to this message

Posted by: Web Master on 04-18-08 about contribute info Can you email them to cool @ leons temple . com (remove spaces) if you want them on this site? I can't download anything off of myspace successfully. Not sure if its my aged Mac or the general klugyness of myspace. Or people can just go directly there. In response to: Craig on 04-18-08 for contribute info Sounds Like Sunday (Craig Daitch's project with Geoff Halsey and Cam Taylor) songs are below: http://www.myspace.com/hellodetroit --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Craig on 04-18-08 about contribute info Sounds Like Sunday (Craig Daitch's project with Geoff Halsey and Cam Taylor) songs are below: http://www.myspace.com/hellodetroit Reply to this message

Posted by: Snasnick Fikpee, the homunculus. on 04-17-08 about So This is Outerspace Yes, that band Federale from Portland, Oregon, is absolutely terrible. Reply to this message

Posted by: Brian K on 04-17-08 about So This is Outerspace Yeah, I have a copy, but the drumming is pretty sub-par. I believe the douche responsible is in some hack band called "Federale" In response to: Snasnick Fikpee, the homunculus. on 04-15-08 for So This is Outerspace Does anyone have a copy of the So This Is Outerspace session recorded live on WFMU circa 1999? The lineup was Brian Charles, Paul Bayer, and Aaron Pagdon. I believe it was quite good. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Snasnick Fikpee, the homunculus. on 04-15-08 about So This is Outerspace Does anyone have a copy of the So This Is Outerspace session recorded live on WFMU circa 1999? The lineup was Brian Charles, Paul Bayer, and Aaron Pagdon. I believe it was quite good. Reply to this message

Posted by: RobS on 04-15-08 about Love Offering There was a second guitarist, name of Poach, if memory serves. I played bass with these guys for a while at the begining, before recording and all that. Road I and Poach were cool guys,and the songs were well constructed, but I only kept showing up cause of Ron (this, along with my sub-par abilities and bass guitar that was wired to constantly feedback got me the boot). But, Bad Ronald was seriously fun to play with. He always delivered metronome performances with great feel and his accents and fills seemed effortless. Great to hear these tracks again - thanks! Reply to this message

Posted by: JPiz on 04-13-08 about Quixote I just talked to Tony U. and he gave me the go ahead to send it. So yeah, I'll be getting those to this site pretty soon. Within the week. Reply to this message

Posted by: JPiz on 04-12-08 about So This is Outerspace I had Mr. Charles as a substitute teacher in school for awhile and he endlessly tormented me. Also he seemed to enjoy slapping Hum stickers on my locker. Not to mention telling me I didn't listen to enough OK Computer. Reply to this message

Posted by: Colin on 04-11-08 about all Oh shit, you found my embarressing home music vids! Subscribe on YouTube bitches. Reply to this message

Posted by: Bryan Charles on 04-10-08 about So This is Outerspace That's Dan Buettner on bass. Dan played in Ordination of Aaron and Broken Hearts Are Blue before STIOS. I remember 98 being a weird time for me in Kalamazoo, a lot of my friends had moved away and old favorite bands had broken up. I was feeling a little left behind and threatened by some of the new players, so out of early 20s defensiveness and confusion wrote that line on the flyer about the "dead scene." Not much else to say except I like all the songs we recorded. Koskuc, send Jeff more. Reply to this message

Posted by: q fan on 04-10-08 about Quixote Any chance this secret album could be uploaded for others to enjoy!!?? East Coast Quixote fan Reply to this message

Posted by: Useless Etah on 04-09-08 about contribute info Purple Dave recordings, please. Either the Ugly Decibel Ride, Purple Dave Experience, or just solo stuff, like this: http://www.wfmu.org/365/2003/315.shtml Holler! Reply to this message

Posted by: paupers field on 04-08-08 about all Paupers Field is back together and booking shows this summer. The band is also recording new material in the near future. Check out myspace.com/paupersfield for upcoming activities... Reply to this message

Posted by: dan k. on 04-08-08 about Lo-Fi Scorpio I saw mike playing classical acoustic at a steak house in kzoo last fall. he was pretty amazing. He was playing through a pedal and looped the rhythm parts so he could layer the lead part over it. He was wearing some big ass high tops. Scott and Tim were there. I also saw Dave Grant there that night. he wasn't playing. He was wearing an Interpol shirt. In response to: collin on 04-06-08 for Lo-Fi Scorpio anyone know what these fellows are doing these days? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: collin on 04-06-08 about Lo-Fi Scorpio anyone know what these fellows are doing these days? Reply to this message

Posted by: u1oo on 04-06-08 about Snokel i'll put a selection of mp3s on the interweb and forward the urls to jt later this evening. just made some fresh LAME V0 rips, just gotta finish tagging em. ~u1oo In response to: Master on 03-27-08 for Snorkel Yup, that's some shitty coding alright... Actually, its some bad downloading. I can't get any of the other songs to download... I've tried Firefox and Safari, and then IE on my Vista computer. Can someone, maybe even a Snorkel guy, send me the MP3's at cool @ leons temple . com? I'll post them. In the interim, you can listen to the songs at their myspace page: HERE In response to: Mike K on 03-27-08 for Snokel one song, newone.mp3 is the only one that plays and the rest is no good... nothing... rock on, snorkel!!! --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 04-06-08 about Trocar Anyone have them? The dude will kill... In response to: Ian on 04-05-08 for Trocar I'd kill a man for MP3s of Life on Mars/Mambo Hardcore --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Ian on 04-05-08 about Trocar I'd kill a man for MP3s of Life on Mars/Mambo Hardcore Reply to this message

Posted by: Michael K on 04-04-08 about Snokel AWESOME!!! Looking forward to the show!!! last show i saw snorkel was their last show at club soda with that dude who used to play for Godbullies. ( the last guitarist before they broke up...) man, i am old!! har har har but gotta keep rocking!!! Reply to this message

Posted by: Someone on 04-04-08 about all In response to: Gloria -- An old K'zoo music fan on 03-20-08 for all Hey, anybody have any updates on the Bremens or Vegetable Soul? Harvey's was such a(drunken) blast back in the day. Oh, and thanks for the C. Bryers update. His tracks on MySpace are so sweet, kinda like Coldplay but way more intense! See ya. --- end of previous message --- The Bremens: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=150442526 Reply to this message

Posted by: Useless Eetah on 04-03-08 about Snokel Snorkel for 1 night only. Part of UFO Dictator #4. July 12th, 2008. Kraftbrau II. I gave lime Flavor Aids to myself. Reply to this message

Posted by: Ron on 04-02-08 about all In response to: "The Sinatras -- nice guys, but..." That's good enough for us. Thank you. Reply to this message

Posted by: rit on 03-31-08 about all Amy, you are an unimpeachable peach...my gaffs are legendary embarrasments....anyways, i think Jeffro deleted a lot of the truly tastelest barbs....such as implying that Bryan Charles has throat cancer...i don't know if that's supposed to be somekinda inside joke, but from my perspective it just seemed like the archetypal troll hating on somebody of exceptional talent and accomplisment...so i guess that was realy the first thing that made me "engage"....anywhooo, i don't mean to be a sanctimonious prole either, talkin' smack is one of my many guilty pleasures.... Reply to this message

Posted by: amysult on 03-31-08 about everything D'OH! I must not have caught that stuff. NOT SO FUNNY! Yeah, taking the piss is one thing, flat-out meanness is inexcusable. meow meow! By the way, I include myself in the "took itself too seriously" comment, even as a adjunct-only part of "the scene". Sometimes I find some of my old stuff for the Gazette and just.....blush. Aye-yi-yi! Opinionated much, soap boxy?! In response to: rit on 03-30-08 for everything but i still think you and Scott are the cat's meow, Amy..... In response to: rit on 03-30-08 for everything the troll chit was high-larious up until the comments about Bill's hand and calling out the ladies by name went down....sorry, i found that to be stale, underscored by the fact that the sackless wonder did so hidden behind a psydenom...... In response to: amysult on 03-30-08 for everything I heard about the troll-ing going on and I had to come check it out. I have no idea who it is, but i have to admit, I laughed out loud. "Takes me back to my forties." Come on. Admit it, that's pretty hilarious. Remember, one problem with the Kalamazoo scene of the 90's was its tendency to take itself waaaaaaay too seriously. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: rit on 03-30-08 about everything but i still think you and Scott are the cat's meow, Amy..... In response to: rit on 03-30-08 for everything the troll chit was high-larious up until the comments about Bill's hand and calling out the ladies by name went down....sorry, i found that to be stale, underscored by the fact that the sackless wonder did so hidden behind a psydenom...... In response to: amysult on 03-30-08 for everything I heard about the troll-ing going on and I had to come check it out. I have no idea who it is, but i have to admit, I laughed out loud. "Takes me back to my forties." Come on. Admit it, that's pretty hilarious. Remember, one problem with the Kalamazoo scene of the 90's was its tendency to take itself waaaaaaay too seriously. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: rit on 03-30-08 about everything the troll chit was high-larious up until the comments about Bill's hand and calling out the ladies by name went down....sorry, i found that to be stale, underscored by the fact that the sackless wonder did so hidden behind a psydenom...... In response to: amysult on 03-30-08 for everything I heard about the troll-ing going on and I had to come check it out. I have no idea who it is, but i have to admit, I laughed out loud. "Takes me back to my forties." Come on. Admit it, that's pretty hilarious. Remember, one problem with the Kalamazoo scene of the 90's was its tendency to take itself waaaaaaay too seriously. --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: amysult on 03-30-08 about everything I heard about the troll-ing going on and I had to come check it out. I have no idea who it is, but i have to admit, I laughed out loud. "Takes me back to my forties." Come on. Admit it, that's pretty hilarious. Remember, one problem with the Kalamazoo scene of the 90's was its tendency to take itself waaaaaaay too seriously. Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 03-27-08 about Snokel Yup, that's some shitty coding alright... Actually, its some bad downloading. I can't get any of the other songs to download... I've tried Firefox and Safari, and then IE on my Vista computer. Can someone, maybe even a Snorkel guy, send me the MP3's at cool @ leons temple . com? I'll post them. In the interim, you can listen to the songs at their myspace page: HERE In response to: Mike K on 03-27-08 for Snokel one song, newone.mp3 is the only one that plays and the rest is no good... nothing... rock on, snorkel!!! --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Mike K on 03-27-08 about Snokel one song, newone.mp3 is the only one that plays and the rest is no good... nothing... rock on, snorkel!!! Reply to this message

Posted by: doug udell on 03-27-08 about Snokel ive been enjoying this page for about a year now but i REALLY enjoy this. thanks! Reply to this message

Posted by: queery on 03-26-08 about all sorry...i dont have them....mark does...email at the myspace page... In response to: Master on 03-26-08 for all Paul, Resin Mattress was supposed to be this week but I can't get to the MP3s. Can you send them to cool @ leons temple . com please? --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Master on 03-26-08 about all Paul, Resin Mattress was supposed to be this week but I can't get to the MP3s. Can you send them to cool @ leons temple . com please? Reply to this message

Posted by: KIRY on 03-26-08 about Snokel ahhh....yes....snorkel....i lived with the boys on minor street in the bands infancy.....sam b heard that i was starting resin mattress and was amazingly jealous....he picked my brain for hours about starting a rock band....it just came naturally for resin mattress...so they started snorkel....god were they awful...they practiced every fucking friday...i'd come home from class and be itching to get some serious studying done....but no...snorkel was in the basement hacking away at their "songs"....i would go downstairs and give them pointers on how to structure a song....told them they should really concentrate on perversion as a subject matter....duct tape the drum set back together and fend off robin at the door for them....blaine shaved his crotch at one of the practices....that was pretty cool....apparently they got good at some point...cause they had the balls to turn down sub pop for a 7"... Reply to this message

Posted by: Spoonman, I mean, Spoonbender on 03-25-08 about Thought Industry I'm finally coming around to our band's early genius, or at least MY genius. In response to: Kenney Stephenson on 03-25-08 for Thought Industry THought Industry demo rules!!!! --- end of previous message --- Reply to this message

Posted by: Kenney Stephenson on 03-25-08 about Thought Industry THought Industry demo rules!!!! Reply to this message

Posted by: justin on 03-24-08 about Fletcher bryan: thanks for posting teenage keg party, i had inadvertently traded my fletcher 7" for season one of the hills on DVD before i could make a back up. scott: thanks for making this post worth reading. paul: "post comment" only needs to be hit once. Reply to this message

Posted by: The Ocassional Master on 03-23-08 about all Yeah, that guy was a lip chewer too . . . In response to: The Frequent master on 03-23-08 for all Don't worry, we don't think everyone from Battle Creek is a lipchewer. Didn't Dr. John Harvey Kellogg live there? In response to: The Ocassional Master on 03-21-08 for all Oh Christ, why did he have to put Battle Creek in his name. --- end of previous message --- --- end of previous message ---